John

Okay, that's the norm.

Welcome to Gun Owners of America State of the Second Podcast.

I'm Kaylee.

Obviously, you've been an instructor for a long time.

Everybody in the firearm space, I think, looks up to you.

What are the lessons that you've learned as an instructor that you feel like are maybe missing from the everyday class that people might just be going to because, you know, their local shop has, you know, an intro class?

No, I mean, I think that, you know, you're,

You know, you definitely answered it.

I think one of the additional questions I have is from the student perspective.

You know, what do you look for when you are teaching a class where you go, OK, they've got it or they're ready to take this to the next level or, you know, we can go further in challenging them?

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And you have to adjust, like you said, for everyday life, how you carry when you are by yourself is very different than when you have kids around and which is very different.

Yeah.

Which is very different than, you know, I'll, I'll be honest.

My, the thing that I have to think about as an individual is I,

I'm a very small person.