Jonathan Cheng

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201 appearances 3 recordings 2 series first heard Dec 2025 last heard 1 Jun

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China for many years benefited from innovation coming out of the West, and they faced accusations that they were perhaps underhandedly getting their hands on some technology and innovation from the West.
Now the shoe's on the other foot, and China is trying to be very careful about...
how it protects its own intellectual property.
Yeah, look, there haven't been too many deals yet, but I think Beijing anticipates that there are going to be more of these temptations by Chinese technologists, scholars, scientists, entrepreneurs.
I think there's a real sense that as China moves up the curve in terms of innovation, that they have more to protect.
You know, it may have some unintended consequences because what it may say, if you're a bright young Chinese entrepreneur or scientist, technologist, AI engineer, you may decide that this isn't the sort of environment for you.
You may try to even get out of China before you have anything that's of any value, because once you have something of value, you may find yourself stuck in China and not able to sell outside.
It's a real pleasure to be here.
Thanks for having me.
Well, it is communist to a degree.
I don't want to suggest that it isn't altogether.
It was founded under the auspices of the USSR at the end of World War II in 1945.
But I think that when we misunderstand North Korea, we misunderstand it by thinking that it is primarily a communist or socialist or Stalinist state.
It certainly is that, and it certainly is a nation state.
But I think perhaps even to think of it as a nation state doesn't quite, in my opinion, get to the essence of what North Korea is.
I would argue that what North Korea is at its root is it's a religious society.
It's a country, yes, of 25 million people.
It is cut off from the outside world.
It does have many trappings of statehood.
It has a seat at the United Nations.
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