Josh Mankiewicz

On the right path. I mean, you know, handcuffs are one of those things like hitting your kids, which is you're going to find people on both sides of that issue. That seemed a little extreme to me, given that there was no testimony about him being violent toward his parents. There was certainly plenty of testimony about him misbehaving and not being honest and doing that kind of thing.

On the right path. I mean, you know, handcuffs are one of those things like hitting your kids, which is you're going to find people on both sides of that issue. That seemed a little extreme to me, given that there was no testimony about him being violent toward his parents. There was certainly plenty of testimony about him misbehaving and not being honest and doing that kind of thing.

But you didn't have some record for beating people up or fighting with his parents. I mean... One senses that the parents were more at the end of their rope than actually fearful of Madison. That was my sense. Like, this is more about teaching you a lesson than protecting us.

But you didn't have some record for beating people up or fighting with his parents. I mean... One senses that the parents were more at the end of their rope than actually fearful of Madison. That was my sense. Like, this is more about teaching you a lesson than protecting us.

But I got to say, I mean, putting handcuffs on somebody is kind of a thing you do when you're afraid of what they're going to do, not where they're going in life at the moment.

But I got to say, I mean, putting handcuffs on somebody is kind of a thing you do when you're afraid of what they're going to do, not where they're going in life at the moment.

That is the kind of small town. I mean, there's literally, I think, one traffic light, or at least there was when we were there. This was one of the few places that we've been at Dateline. They were not glad to see us in Eclectic. We were in the town cafe, the coffee shop where everybody meets, and we were talking to somebody there.

That is the kind of small town. I mean, there's literally, I think, one traffic light, or at least there was when we were there. This was one of the few places that we've been at Dateline. They were not glad to see us in Eclectic. We were in the town cafe, the coffee shop where everybody meets, and we were talking to somebody there.

And the people at the next table heard it, and they went to the manager, and the manager came over and said, I want you guys to leave. That's unusual, because generally... Yeah, when we're in a small, any town, when we're in a small town, generally people, sometimes they know why you're there, but they don't necessarily want you out of there.

And the people at the next table heard it, and they went to the manager, and the manager came over and said, I want you guys to leave. That's unusual, because generally... Yeah, when we're in a small, any town, when we're in a small town, generally people, sometimes they know why you're there, but they don't necessarily want you out of there.

Right. And I think that's exactly what it was. I mean, I think this is anguish for everybody because no matter what you believe, right, Michael and April were vital members of that community. And I think what they were probably saying to us is, you know, we miss them. We respect them. We don't want to talk about this.

Right. And I think that's exactly what it was. I mean, I think this is anguish for everybody because no matter what you believe, right, Michael and April were vital members of that community. And I think what they were probably saying to us is, you know, we miss them. We respect them. We don't want to talk about this.

You know, he was very forthright. His demeanor with me was not tremendously different from his demeanor with the cops. You know, he said, yes, sir, and no, sir. He was looking at me. He was paying attention. He wasn't looking down. He wasn't mumbling. He was ready for whatever came. And again, remember,

You know, he was very forthright. His demeanor with me was not tremendously different from his demeanor with the cops. You know, he said, yes, sir, and no, sir. He was looking at me. He was paying attention. He wasn't looking down. He wasn't mumbling. He was ready for whatever came. And again, remember,

Your attorney may tell you to talk to police or not, but you're certainly not required to talk with reporters. But he did. And that earned him some points with me because I asked him all the questions that you'd want to ask. Like, you know, what's the story here? And he he was pretty good about that.

Your attorney may tell you to talk to police or not, but you're certainly not required to talk with reporters. But he did. And that earned him some points with me because I asked him all the questions that you'd want to ask. Like, you know, what's the story here? And he he was pretty good about that.

I think they were convinced, not because they believed Madison, but because they knew what Michael and April were going through. And they probably had... sort of a ringside seat to what was happening in that marriage in a way that Madison wouldn't have. Sure.

I think they were convinced, not because they believed Madison, but because they knew what Michael and April were going through. And they probably had... sort of a ringside seat to what was happening in that marriage in a way that Madison wouldn't have. Sure.

So my guess is they knew things about that marriage, about what was happening and, and what Michael in particular, the dad was going through that made them think this has nothing to do with Madison.

So my guess is they knew things about that marriage, about what was happening and, and what Michael in particular, the dad was going through that made them think this has nothing to do with Madison.