Julissa Trapp
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We have to go to the dark places in order to find answers.
We have to go to the dark places in order to find answers.
There's only one person. She said, I know him. I said, who? And she said, his name's Frank Cano. He's a registered sex offender.
There's only one person. She said, I know him. I said, who? And she said, his name's Frank Cano. He's a registered sex offender.
I soon realized I'm not just dealing with one. We're dealing with two. Two sex offenders wearing GPS bracelets.
I soon realized I'm not just dealing with one. We're dealing with two. Two sex offenders wearing GPS bracelets.
Let me just say, there was a lot of rosaries that were being prayed for sure.
Let me just say, there was a lot of rosaries that were being prayed for sure.
Well, we started reading the text messages and started seeing how prolific they were at hunting.
Well, we started reading the text messages and started seeing how prolific they were at hunting.
Hunting on almost a daily basis and how... Nonchalant they were about it. It was almost like ordering takeout. When you start reading, what do you feel like today? Asian or Mexican?
Hunting on almost a daily basis and how... Nonchalant they were about it. It was almost like ordering takeout. When you start reading, what do you feel like today? Asian or Mexican?
Cats. Be careful. When the cat knows it isn't getting away, it's gonna fight.
Cats. Be careful. When the cat knows it isn't getting away, it's gonna fight.
I could hear the desperation in Frank Cano's voice. That desperation just kind of sent a hair on the back of my neck, and I said, no, I'm not waiting anymore.
I could hear the desperation in Frank Cano's voice. That desperation just kind of sent a hair on the back of my neck, and I said, no, I'm not waiting anymore.
On a bicycle. Yes. He had a little collision with one of our surveillance units and a little flying over the handlebars, and he was taken into custody.
On a bicycle. Yes. He had a little collision with one of our surveillance units and a little flying over the handlebars, and he was taken into custody.
I knew this was going to be a lot different than any other interview I had done.
I knew this was going to be a lot different than any other interview I had done.
How are you? And I knew this was going to be a lot different than any other interview I had done. He's cunning, manipulative.
How are you? And I knew this was going to be a lot different than any other interview I had done. He's cunning, manipulative.
He did not have to talk to me. Are you cold? Do you want a blanket?
He did not have to talk to me. Are you cold? Do you want a blanket?
He watched me very carefully. If I swallowed too hard, if I looked at him differently, you know, he would say, what's wrong?
He watched me very carefully. If I swallowed too hard, if I looked at him differently, you know, he would say, what's wrong?
When I said where? So he was constantly trying to keep a poker face to continue to elicit information from him.
When I said where? So he was constantly trying to keep a poker face to continue to elicit information from him.
She was on a conveyor belt. Only her feet were exposed. And initially, the workers there thought it was a mannequin.
She was on a conveyor belt. Only her feet were exposed. And initially, the workers there thought it was a mannequin.
Oh, I think he definitely thinks he did, for sure.
Oh, I think he definitely thinks he did, for sure.
As he was hurting Martha... She told him, I didn't believe in God, but I do now. There's a part of me that's grateful that she found God at the end. It's disturbing to me that in response he said, you picked a hell of a time to start believing in God. I'll never forget that.
As he was hurting Martha... She told him, I didn't believe in God, but I do now. There's a part of me that's grateful that she found God at the end. It's disturbing to me that in response he said, you picked a hell of a time to start believing in God. I'll never forget that.
We did a lot of research, and we had every intention to try to dig for them.
We did a lot of research, and we had every intention to try to dig for them.
It's frustrating. It's frustrating knowing that they're here and we can't bring them home. That. It's like the one thing that the mothers want, and I get it. And to not be able to do that, it feels, it's incomplete.
It's frustrating. It's frustrating knowing that they're here and we can't bring them home. That. It's like the one thing that the mothers want, and I get it. And to not be able to do that, it feels, it's incomplete.
We had no idea who she was. We had no idea where she came from. How did she end up there?
We had no idea who she was. We had no idea where she came from. How did she end up there?
She wanted to go back. to this last spot. Why? May I ask why?
She wanted to go back. to this last spot. Why? May I ask why?
It's a way for me to kind of connect to my victims.
It's a way for me to kind of connect to my victims.
All of these women have a special meaning for me. And when it got thrown out, I had a really hard time.
All of these women have a special meaning for me. And when it got thrown out, I had a really hard time.
Fair to say that your intention was to pick up a prostitute and ultimately kill her?
Fair to say that your intention was to pick up a prostitute and ultimately kill her?
And then I thought, maybe I prayed that rosary a little too hard because now we've got two statements in.
And then I thought, maybe I prayed that rosary a little too hard because now we've got two statements in.
She was on a conveyor belt. Only her feet were exposed. The workers thought it was a mannequin. Her last hours on earth were not pleasant.
She was on a conveyor belt. Only her feet were exposed. The workers thought it was a mannequin. Her last hours on earth were not pleasant.
I think that The more you allow yourself to feel, the better you're going to be as a detective. And we have to go to the dark places in order to find answers. The quicker we can get in and out, you know, the better it is for all of us.
I think that The more you allow yourself to feel, the better you're going to be as a detective. And we have to go to the dark places in order to find answers. The quicker we can get in and out, you know, the better it is for all of us.
Cases don't always get solved in 48 hours, you know.
Cases don't always get solved in 48 hours, you know.
He looks at me and he goes, you're missing one.
He looks at me and he goes, you're missing one.
How can this happen? Why were they not being monitored? But it was definitely a hard question to get from the mothers themselves as well. Why wasn't it cut sooner?
How can this happen? Why were they not being monitored? But it was definitely a hard question to get from the mothers themselves as well. Why wasn't it cut sooner?
He looks at me and he goes, you're missing one. which caught me off guard and I tried not to show too much emotion. And I said, okay. And that was the first time I learned about Jane Doe was from him.
He looks at me and he goes, you're missing one. which caught me off guard and I tried not to show too much emotion. And I said, okay. And that was the first time I learned about Jane Doe was from him.
She said she was from Compton, but... I feel a responsibility because Jane Doe is not a missing person. She's an unknown, and I feel like if I don't look for her, who will? I know there is a family out there wondering where she is.
She said she was from Compton, but... I feel a responsibility because Jane Doe is not a missing person. She's an unknown, and I feel like if I don't look for her, who will? I know there is a family out there wondering where she is.
I just think because she's so helpless. You're on the street, you're working as a prostitute, and you run into Steve Gordon and Frank Cano, and your last hours on this earth are horrific. And then they discard you like trash.
I just think because she's so helpless. You're on the street, you're working as a prostitute, and you run into Steve Gordon and Frank Cano, and your last hours on this earth are horrific. And then they discard you like trash.
Even though it is a landfill, I mean, it is quite peaceful when it's quiet.
Even though it is a landfill, I mean, it is quite peaceful when it's quiet.
I... Not only do I have to go tell her she's dead, I have to tell her that... she's one of these girls. So that's going to be hard, I think.
I... Not only do I have to go tell her she's dead, I have to tell her that... she's one of these girls. So that's going to be hard, I think.
She had been contacted the year prior here in Anaheim on Beach Boulevard.
She had been contacted the year prior here in Anaheim on Beach Boulevard.
If you want to buy drugs, Beach Boulevard's where you come. If you are looking for a girl, Beach Boulevard's where you come. A lot of them came from good, stable families that just happened to run in to the wrong guy who somehow got them into the job. I mean, these pimps are really good about breaking down the women and getting control over them.
If you want to buy drugs, Beach Boulevard's where you come. If you are looking for a girl, Beach Boulevard's where you come. A lot of them came from good, stable families that just happened to run in to the wrong guy who somehow got them into the job. I mean, these pimps are really good about breaking down the women and getting control over them.
A lot of predators will start with prostitutes because they think that people won't miss them.
A lot of predators will start with prostitutes because they think that people won't miss them.
We literally went from each little motel to each little motel, showing her picture and having the clerk run her name to see if she had stayed there.
We literally went from each little motel to each little motel, showing her picture and having the clerk run her name to see if she had stayed there.
They were all given pictures of what the trash looked like that was around her. If it looks similar, take pictures of what's inside.
They were all given pictures of what the trash looked like that was around her. If it looks similar, take pictures of what's inside.
There was a lot of visits to my local church saying, please don't let me screw this up.
There was a lot of visits to my local church saying, please don't let me screw this up.
He tells us we never throw trash out at customers' homes. We always bring it back to Hardy Windows.
He tells us we never throw trash out at customers' homes. We always bring it back to Hardy Windows.
It's that same blue plastic wrapping. And it was almost like I was looking at the same trash I had seen on the conveyor belt.
It's that same blue plastic wrapping. And it was almost like I was looking at the same trash I had seen on the conveyor belt.
It was a combination of frustration, but okay, all right, we're moving somewhere.
It was a combination of frustration, but okay, all right, we're moving somewhere.
I had heard a story on the news that there was three missing prostitutes in the city of Santa Ana. Which is right next door, basically. Right next door, yes.
I had heard a story on the news that there was three missing prostitutes in the city of Santa Ana. Which is right next door, basically. Right next door, yes.
We were like, well, you know, what are the odds that they're related?
We were like, well, you know, what are the odds that they're related?
We were like, well, you know, what are the odds that they're related?
We were like, well, you know, what are the odds that they're related?
I do. There's been plenty of times that I've been angry with our Maker because you have to wonder, why does this happen? I mean, I wish He would talk back to me and tell me. That would be very helpful. But I just have to figure out what happened. Just read the clues, collect the puzzle pieces. And the more you can kind of keep a neutral mind, the easier the puzzle pieces fit together.
I do. There's been plenty of times that I've been angry with our Maker because you have to wonder, why does this happen? I mean, I wish He would talk back to me and tell me. That would be very helpful. But I just have to figure out what happened. Just read the clues, collect the puzzle pieces. And the more you can kind of keep a neutral mind, the easier the puzzle pieces fit together.
But... You know what? It might work now. Why not? It's a Hail Mary, but let's try it.
But... You know what? It might work now. Why not? It's a Hail Mary, but let's try it.