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And then I think we should jump over to the book then and talk about what's in the book. But talk about the origins first.

And then I think we should jump over to the book then and talk about what's in the book. But talk about the origins first.

And let's talk about it. So you then identified a deficiency in that our modern diet has relatively poor sourcing of this particular molecule. And I'm guessing the book chronicles this progress, right? You go along and let's talk about the deficiency and then the cellular fragility and what can be learned from the book.

And let's talk about it. So you then identified a deficiency in that our modern diet has relatively poor sourcing of this particular molecule. And I'm guessing the book chronicles this progress, right? You go along and let's talk about the deficiency and then the cellular fragility and what can be learned from the book.

Yeah, and we have had so much indoctrination about low fat, low fat, low fat, and all these crazy moves away from butter and tallow that were at best ill-advised, at worst catastrophic. And this is one of the byproducts of all that. I would argue, though, that as you get... Let's talk about this.

Yeah, and we have had so much indoctrination about low fat, low fat, low fat, and all these crazy moves away from butter and tallow that were at best ill-advised, at worst catastrophic. And this is one of the byproducts of all that. I would argue, though, that as you get... Let's talk about this.

So as you get into the topic of longevity, though, you can't get that much longevity effects from dietary sources, I'm guessing, unless you really supplement this product.

So as you get into the topic of longevity, though, you can't get that much longevity effects from dietary sources, I'm guessing, unless you really supplement this product.

Yeah, I've been saying recently that I spent most of my career trying to intervene on illnesses or conditions that shorten life. But I really feel like for the first time now in the last few years, I'm able to talk about supplements and even supplements.

Yeah, I've been saying recently that I spent most of my career trying to intervene on illnesses or conditions that shorten life. But I really feel like for the first time now in the last few years, I'm able to talk about supplements and even supplements.

behaviors like you know resistance training that lengthen life that don't just prevent the shortening but you can actually wellness and longevity can both be pushed out into the future longer than we ever could before

behaviors like you know resistance training that lengthen life that don't just prevent the shortening but you can actually wellness and longevity can both be pushed out into the future longer than we ever could before

And in recent years, the word inflammation has been tossed around and really inaccurate and almost sort of gross. I don't mean gross in the sense of disgusting way, but gross in the sense of too unsophisticated way. It's just sort of tossed around. And when I think about inflammation, it to me means a number of different things. In fact, I think the government's going to start getting involved in

And in recent years, the word inflammation has been tossed around and really inaccurate and almost sort of gross. I don't mean gross in the sense of disgusting way, but gross in the sense of too unsophisticated way. It's just sort of tossed around. And when I think about inflammation, it to me means a number of different things. In fact, I think the government's going to start getting involved in

preventing people from claiming something's an anti-inflammatory because it's so non-specific. So, you know, it seems to me inflammation probably has a role here, but the big intervention is to reduce oxidative stress, and I'll let you explain what that means, and particularly oxidative stress on cell membranes, which have their own sort of lifespan and sort of longevity to them.

preventing people from claiming something's an anti-inflammatory because it's so non-specific. So, you know, it seems to me inflammation probably has a role here, but the big intervention is to reduce oxidative stress, and I'll let you explain what that means, and particularly oxidative stress on cell membranes, which have their own sort of lifespan and sort of longevity to them.

Right. It's this weird polar molecule. We like to get the electrons from it, but when it loses or gains, it becomes more polar, and then it can rip through things. And that's the problem. We're going to attach to things. And I think it's mostly in cell membrane. It's kind of attaching, right? Isn't that how it does its damage?

Right. It's this weird polar molecule. We like to get the electrons from it, but when it loses or gains, it becomes more polar, and then it can rip through things. And that's the problem. We're going to attach to things. And I think it's mostly in cell membrane. It's kind of attaching, right? Isn't that how it does its damage?

And again, these can be... And when they fall apart, to me, that's when the inflammation kicks in because you have senescence and other inflammatory sort of mediators coming in to clean everything up. But I think about the oxidation part as being the precursor to the inflammation in a weird way, even though... I guess it has an inflammatory course to it as the oxygen gets loose.

And again, these can be... And when they fall apart, to me, that's when the inflammation kicks in because you have senescence and other inflammatory sort of mediators coming in to clean everything up. But I think about the oxidation part as being the precursor to the inflammation in a weird way, even though... I guess it has an inflammatory course to it as the oxygen gets loose.