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Kate Adamala

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

If you look at the entirety of biology, it actually, and I'm going to piss off a lot of biologists by saying that, but biology from the chemical point of view is actually really boring.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

It uses only 22 amino acids out of hundreds possible amino acids.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

And that's another motivation for engineering cells from scratch, is we want to be able to invent things, to do things that biology never bothered doing.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

The synthetic cell would be like a bookstore that you're filling one shelf at a time.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

You know what sections you want.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

And using Drew's analogy, you're filling it to have all the books that you're interested in.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

But because you're putting them in, you know where they go.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

You know what books you put in and you know where they're supposed to move.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

It's still tiny, but because we built it from the parts that we know about and we know what they're supposed to be doing, then we can actually understand and most importantly, predict where they go.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

Because it's not just about understanding where they used to go.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

It's about predicting where they are going to go where you do something.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

And that would be a synthetic cell.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

It would be a bookstore with a really good inventory because we know what goes into a synthetic cell and we can grow it

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

And that's the most fascinating to me as an engineer is I don't want to just build something complex.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

I actually want to know why it works the way it does.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

There is no natural living cell that we can have a full chemical ingredient list for.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

And we don't know all the genes even in the simplest cell.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

The builder cell is different than just the construction of a cell with synthetic genome, because there was a living recipient cell that was the recipient of that genome transplantation.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

So it wasn't building a cell from non-living components.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

We learned a ton in the last decade, decade and a half now, about how molecules come together to form.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

drive those very basic processes of biology.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

So now we're finally starting to be able to conceptualize how we would go about not just making a synthetic genome, but booting up the whole thing from scratch.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

So it's really kind of like a black box.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

And that gives us this full operational control over every element of it.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

Yes.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

Every time you build something, you're limiting the possibilities because you have to make choices.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

And biology has been making those choices for over 3 billion years.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

So we did reject a lot of possible alternatives.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

And we're now revisiting all those alternatives.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

That's the fascinating part of it is we can see what else can be done with biological parts.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

It's very difficult for me to answer that because there is no good definition of life.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

But we're getting to the point where if it quacks like a cell, moves like a cell, then it's starting to be a cell-like entity.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

And that's where the field is.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

We don't have the complexity that approaches the natural biological cell, but we have systems that can perform all the functions of a cell.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

Mm-hmm.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

Building a cell from scratch is absolutely essential to realize the promise of bioengineering.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

When the field was started by Drew and others, they made huge promises.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

They said we'll be able to make things with biology.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

We'll be able to have this green economy.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

Those promises have to be realized.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

Because the way the world is going right now, we cannot keep running our economy on petrochemicals, on oil.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

We have to build more equitable economy.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

And we have to really understand biology on this very fundamental molecular level.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

And all those things will not happen unless we truly understand this very basic building block, which is a cell.

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Synthetic Cells: The Next Bioengineering Frontier

And I believe we will not be able to understand a complex natural cell unless we can actually build it.