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Kathryn Schulz

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304 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The Ezra Klein Show
Our Lives Are an Endless Series of 'And'

And we then sort of just got swept headlong into the pandemic, which was, I think for many of us, an experience of living inside a lot of entirely irreconcilable realities simultaneously you know it's like suddenly you were working from home and that was amazing because you didn't have a two-hour commute any day every day and and you got to be around your kids all the time but also like

The Ezra Klein Show
Our Lives Are an Endless Series of 'And'

And we then sort of just got swept headlong into the pandemic, which was, I think for many of us, an experience of living inside a lot of entirely irreconcilable realities simultaneously you know it's like suddenly you were working from home and that was amazing because you didn't have a two-hour commute any day every day and and you got to be around your kids all the time but also like

The Ezra Klein Show
Our Lives Are an Endless Series of 'And'

oh my gosh, you were around your kids all the time and you couldn't get any work done. And it was so amazing to watch them grow and to have time around them, but also they made you crazy. And I mean, I just think everyone, or, you know, more tragically, you know, people around you were getting sick and suffering. And in this weird way, your family system was thriving.

The Ezra Klein Show
Our Lives Are an Endless Series of 'And'

oh my gosh, you were around your kids all the time and you couldn't get any work done. And it was so amazing to watch them grow and to have time around them, but also they made you crazy. And I mean, I just think everyone, or, you know, more tragically, you know, people around you were getting sick and suffering. And in this weird way, your family system was thriving.

The Ezra Klein Show
Our Lives Are an Endless Series of 'And'

It just, everyone I think was dealing with these profoundly contradictory experiences. And Of course, that was not actually about the pandemic, right? The pandemic brought into focus a fundamental feature of existence, which is we are always inundated by profoundly clashing realities. And some of the question is, how much attention do we pay to them?

The Ezra Klein Show
Our Lives Are an Endless Series of 'And'

It just, everyone I think was dealing with these profoundly contradictory experiences. And Of course, that was not actually about the pandemic, right? The pandemic brought into focus a fundamental feature of existence, which is we are always inundated by profoundly clashing realities. And some of the question is, how much attention do we pay to them?

The Ezra Klein Show
Our Lives Are an Endless Series of 'And'

You know, you are in a position right now where you have to pay attention to it, right? You're covering these deportations and going home to your family, and you have to live in both of those realities. But, you know, even in the most peaceable of times, The extent to which we are confronting the world beyond our own immediate reality is just a choice, right?

The Ezra Klein Show
Our Lives Are an Endless Series of 'And'

You know, you are in a position right now where you have to pay attention to it, right? You're covering these deportations and going home to your family, and you have to live in both of those realities. But, you know, even in the most peaceable of times, The extent to which we are confronting the world beyond our own immediate reality is just a choice, right?

The Ezra Klein Show
Our Lives Are an Endless Series of 'And'

I mean, there's always boundless suffering. There's always boundless beauty. And it really is a matter of where do we look? And it's tough, right? You both have to do both at once and can't do both at once. And the question of what kind of balance you strike is infinitely interesting to me.

The Ezra Klein Show
Our Lives Are an Endless Series of 'And'

I mean, there's always boundless suffering. There's always boundless beauty. And it really is a matter of where do we look? And it's tough, right? You both have to do both at once and can't do both at once. And the question of what kind of balance you strike is infinitely interesting to me.

The Ezra Klein Show
Our Lives Are an Endless Series of 'And'

I'd be happy to. Finding, like losing, is an enormous category, bursting with seemingly unrelated contents, from gold doubloons to God. We can find things like pencils and couch cushions, and things like new planets and distant solar systems, and things that aren't things at all. Inner peace, old elementary school classmates, the solution to a problem.

The Ezra Klein Show
Our Lives Are an Endless Series of 'And'

I'd be happy to. Finding, like losing, is an enormous category, bursting with seemingly unrelated contents, from gold doubloons to God. We can find things like pencils and couch cushions, and things like new planets and distant solar systems, and things that aren't things at all. Inner peace, old elementary school classmates, the solution to a problem.

The Ezra Klein Show
Our Lives Are an Endless Series of 'And'

We can find things that we're never missing, except from our own lives, as when we find a new job or a hole in the wall barbecue joint. And we can find things so deeply hidden that almost no one else thought to look for them, as when we find glial cells or quarks.

The Ezra Klein Show
Our Lives Are an Endless Series of 'And'

We can find things that we're never missing, except from our own lives, as when we find a new job or a hole in the wall barbecue joint. And we can find things so deeply hidden that almost no one else thought to look for them, as when we find glial cells or quarks.

The Ezra Klein Show
Our Lives Are an Endless Series of 'And'

I love it when people ask me questions I've not been asked. And that one actually does feel kind of core to who I am in this interesting way. I think I experience the world that way. I mean, I love the bigness of the world, right? I mean, my most profoundly peaceful and interested place is up on top of a mountain where I can see really far.

The Ezra Klein Show
Our Lives Are an Endless Series of 'And'

I love it when people ask me questions I've not been asked. And that one actually does feel kind of core to who I am in this interesting way. I think I experience the world that way. I mean, I love the bigness of the world, right? I mean, my most profoundly peaceful and interested place is up on top of a mountain where I can see really far.

The Ezra Klein Show
Our Lives Are an Endless Series of 'And'

And that's not just because I happen to love mountains, right? Although I do. I am soothed and intrigued by the experience of the longest possible view. I'm profoundly drawn to questions of scale. I mean, we human beings have a very unique situation, which is that we are finite creatures, to the best of my knowledge, finite creatures in an infinite universe.

The Ezra Klein Show
Our Lives Are an Endless Series of 'And'

And that's not just because I happen to love mountains, right? Although I do. I am soothed and intrigued by the experience of the longest possible view. I'm profoundly drawn to questions of scale. I mean, we human beings have a very unique situation, which is that we are finite creatures, to the best of my knowledge, finite creatures in an infinite universe.

The Ezra Klein Show
Our Lives Are an Endless Series of 'And'

And that's kind of a troubling position to be in. And I'm endlessly interested in it. It has all kinds of implications in our day-to-day reality, in our whole existence as a species. That is our context. And I think some part of my brain, for whatever reason, is always looking kind of upward and outward. I think it's kind of native to my brain.

The Ezra Klein Show
Our Lives Are an Endless Series of 'And'

And that's kind of a troubling position to be in. And I'm endlessly interested in it. It has all kinds of implications in our day-to-day reality, in our whole existence as a species. That is our context. And I think some part of my brain, for whatever reason, is always looking kind of upward and outward. I think it's kind of native to my brain.