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Kemi Badenoch

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1136 total appearances

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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
522. The New Conservative Party | Kemi Badenoch

And what I didn't realize was that between the expectations of the school I was going to, and the amount of time I was spending, you know, earning money and flipping burgers and eating them, that actually I was no longer on that academic track. And I also had my first experience of what I call the soft bigotry of low expectations.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
522. The New Conservative Party | Kemi Badenoch

And what I didn't realize was that between the expectations of the school I was going to, and the amount of time I was spending, you know, earning money and flipping burgers and eating them, that actually I was no longer on that academic track. And I also had my first experience of what I call the soft bigotry of low expectations.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
522. The New Conservative Party | Kemi Badenoch

Because I had grown up in a relatively wealthy middle-class family, everybody's a doctor, and of course you get all As, and of course you do well. It just wasn't even a thing to not succeed academically. And I got to a school where failing was okay, and it didn't matter if you didn't get the top grades, and the teachers would say, well, why do you want to be a doctor? You can be a nurse instead.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
522. The New Conservative Party | Kemi Badenoch

Because I had grown up in a relatively wealthy middle-class family, everybody's a doctor, and of course you get all As, and of course you do well. It just wasn't even a thing to not succeed academically. And I got to a school where failing was okay, and it didn't matter if you didn't get the top grades, and the teachers would say, well, why do you want to be a doctor? You can be a nurse instead.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
522. The New Conservative Party | Kemi Badenoch

Because I had grown up in a relatively wealthy middle-class family, everybody's a doctor, and of course you get all As, and of course you do well. It just wasn't even a thing to not succeed academically. And I got to a school where failing was okay, and it didn't matter if you didn't get the top grades, and the teachers would say, well, why do you want to be a doctor? You can be a nurse instead.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
522. The New Conservative Party | Kemi Badenoch

And it wasn't because... they wanted to keep me down. It was because what they had seen was that if you're Black, then you probably shouldn't be stretched too much because you won't achieve it. And so they set lower targets and give you a huge congratulations and a round of applause for meeting them. That was the complete opposite of my upbringing.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
522. The New Conservative Party | Kemi Badenoch

And it wasn't because... they wanted to keep me down. It was because what they had seen was that if you're Black, then you probably shouldn't be stretched too much because you won't achieve it. And so they set lower targets and give you a huge congratulations and a round of applause for meeting them. That was the complete opposite of my upbringing.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
522. The New Conservative Party | Kemi Badenoch

And it wasn't because... they wanted to keep me down. It was because what they had seen was that if you're Black, then you probably shouldn't be stretched too much because you won't achieve it. And so they set lower targets and give you a huge congratulations and a round of applause for meeting them. That was the complete opposite of my upbringing.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
522. The New Conservative Party | Kemi Badenoch

Being relatively wealthy in a poor country is very different from being relatively wealthy in the West. For me, being relatively wealthy meant that we had a car. And we, certainly up until I was about 13, we had running water. After 13, we stopped having running water. And we could occasionally, but not very frequently, travel on holiday. But we didn't have electricity a lot of the time.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
522. The New Conservative Party | Kemi Badenoch

Being relatively wealthy in a poor country is very different from being relatively wealthy in the West. For me, being relatively wealthy meant that we had a car. And we, certainly up until I was about 13, we had running water. After 13, we stopped having running water. And we could occasionally, but not very frequently, travel on holiday. But we didn't have electricity a lot of the time.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
522. The New Conservative Party | Kemi Badenoch

Being relatively wealthy in a poor country is very different from being relatively wealthy in the West. For me, being relatively wealthy meant that we had a car. And we, certainly up until I was about 13, we had running water. After 13, we stopped having running water. And we could occasionally, but not very frequently, travel on holiday. But we didn't have electricity a lot of the time.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
522. The New Conservative Party | Kemi Badenoch

So it's an experience that comes from just being in a poor country, that even when you have a bit of money, you still experience life like people who don't have any. So no electricity, eventually no running water, lots of fuel shortages. But I was never hungry. So that's what I mean by that. And you're absolutely right.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
522. The New Conservative Party | Kemi Badenoch

So it's an experience that comes from just being in a poor country, that even when you have a bit of money, you still experience life like people who don't have any. So no electricity, eventually no running water, lots of fuel shortages. But I was never hungry. So that's what I mean by that. And you're absolutely right.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
522. The New Conservative Party | Kemi Badenoch

So it's an experience that comes from just being in a poor country, that even when you have a bit of money, you still experience life like people who don't have any. So no electricity, eventually no running water, lots of fuel shortages. But I was never hungry. So that's what I mean by that. And you're absolutely right.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
522. The New Conservative Party | Kemi Badenoch

A lot of Nigerians who do leave the country end up doing well because they have left a system that holds them back. and go to a system that allows them to flourish. And that's why I'm so interested in what is it that holds people back in one place and allows them to flourish in another. And it is not just money.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
522. The New Conservative Party | Kemi Badenoch

A lot of Nigerians who do leave the country end up doing well because they have left a system that holds them back. and go to a system that allows them to flourish. And that's why I'm so interested in what is it that holds people back in one place and allows them to flourish in another. And it is not just money.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
522. The New Conservative Party | Kemi Badenoch

A lot of Nigerians who do leave the country end up doing well because they have left a system that holds them back. and go to a system that allows them to flourish. And that's why I'm so interested in what is it that holds people back in one place and allows them to flourish in another. And it is not just money.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
522. The New Conservative Party | Kemi Badenoch

It is many of the things that go with culture, the attitude to entrepreneurship, whether you live in a high trust or a low trust society, it's a very low trust society. You get a lot of clan behavior, but it is also, it's a very competitive place.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
522. The New Conservative Party | Kemi Badenoch

It is many of the things that go with culture, the attitude to entrepreneurship, whether you live in a high trust or a low trust society, it's a very low trust society. You get a lot of clan behavior, but it is also, it's a very competitive place.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
522. The New Conservative Party | Kemi Badenoch

It is many of the things that go with culture, the attitude to entrepreneurship, whether you live in a high trust or a low trust society, it's a very low trust society. You get a lot of clan behavior, but it is also, it's a very competitive place.