Ken Burns

So that, you know, you see the baseball player who hits the home run and crosses home base and looks up and thanks.

They never do that when they hit into a game-ending double play in the ninth inning, right?

They don't say, oh, thank you, God, for giving me that.

I've only seen that once.

Pedro Marcina had given up a fairly significant lead, not the entire lead, to the Yankees in one of those great playoffs.

And as he walked off and was pulled by the manager, he walked off and looked up.

And I spoke to him about it.

I said, I've never seen it.

Anything like that.

But this idea that all of our affairs are governed in that way is not what many of the founders believed in.

That it is our obligation to lead that virtuous life.

Don't mean to keep bringing you back there.

Moves you closer up the stairway to heaven, up the ray of creation to God.

And that it's your movement, not that supreme being's movement towards you.

Oh, let's make sure that's a ground root double.

Oh, let's – that's not happening.

It is the ongoing chaos of the sequence of events and human nature, and we've got to, A, be aware of the sort of incredible current, the force of the current of that human nature, but also the way in which my –

My individuality, my will, the discipline, the virtue that I might be able to have could in some ways be singular and do something significant.

Not because of that, but in order to be closer to that higher thing.

And that's where they're all talking about it.