Larry Levine

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About myself. I spent 10 years in federal custody. I was in 11 different federal prisons. I got charged and sentenced for narcotics trafficking, securities fraud, racketeering, obstruction of justice, and machine guns. They moved me around to 11 different federal prisons across the U.S., I got two 10-year sentences and a five-year sentence all ran concurrent.
And when I got out, I started a company called Wall Street Prison Consultants. And I am the very first prison consultant in the United States. Matter of fact, I started the industry And now I help people that are going into custody, get out early. I help people going through their criminal case, you know, before they've been sentenced.
OK, first of all, the BOP, the Federal Bureau of Prisons, they give you a gift bag. It's a big plastic bag. And when I went in in 98, I mean, it was a big fucking bag. And it had cookies and candy and potato chips and all this crap in it. And they act like they were doing you a favor giving you this gift bag. But what they didn't tell you that they mark up the stuff on the commissary 30%.
They take that 30% markup and they buy the holiday bag. So you're actually, they're not giving you shit. You paid for that bag. And that bag over the years, it shrinks every year. So that's your holiday festivities. There'll be candy canes in it. They may serve, I'm going to say may, serve a special meal on Christmas. I was, like I said, in 11 different facilities.
And we had Cornish game hens and we had ham. But that's, you know, we could go to the regular dining hall. This guy's not going to the dining hall because he's locked in a cell. Now, it gets to another question. Is he really in the shoe? This has racked my brain after reading the U.S. attorney's motion against him getting bail. And they said he was using other people's telephones.
Now, if he's in the shoe, if he's locked in that cell 24-7, he doesn't have contact and access to other people. He does not. Maybe he can have a conversation through the vents and they can shout and lie about things to each other. But for him to use other people's telephone service... he would have to have their PAC number, their personal access code.
In other words, you go up to the phone and you punch in the number and it has numbers that you've entered in on speed dial. Well, in order to set all that up and get all these PIN codes from people, he'd actually have to have physical access to them. This is not something that you could just do.
The SHU is the Special Housing Unit. In other words, in a regular housing unit at MDC, and I spent two years at MDC myself in LA. So I'm real familiar with what happens. In a regular housing unit, you have a common area and you have all these cells like around the walls and they don't have bars or anything. They have steel doors with like little slats on the bottom.
They can slide food in and like a rectangular window that goes up and down. Well, if you're in the shoe, you're essentially locked in there by yourself. You're not going out into a housing unit. You're not going anywhere. And it's not really solitary confinement. Because they could, big could in quotation marks, they could put somebody in there with you.
But you're not getting the same kind of visits people get. You're not socializing with people. You have limited access to the showers. You have limited access to the telephones. Really, the only people you can see are your lawyer and maybe one or two people on your visiting list. So they limit you. They limit your access. Your whole day is... I don't know.
He's probably got a radio in there with him, and he's listening to the local New York stations. I'd imagine that. He's got a Bible in there with him. They'll give him a Bible, but maybe some discovery. Maybe they won't let him have discovery because he's got like a fob that he can go and plug into a computer there in the shoe, and he can read his discovery.
But you're isolated while you're in the shoe.
That's because the U.S. attorney said that he was using other people's phone numbers and phone access. And that would be if you're locked in your cell, A, how are you going to get other people's access codes that are also in the shoe in different cells? I don't want to say it's impossible, but it'd be pretty much fucking impossible to do.
And then you're going to add all your telephone numbers to other people's account. If you were in a regular housing unit, that would be pretty easy to do. And if you got caught... They would pull good time from you. They'd send you to the shoe or whatever. They'd restrict your phone access.
An inmate calls you. It's almost like a speed dial. Okay, well, these numbers are entered in. And then when you go to the phone, it's a blue telephone. You pick it up. It's got an armored cord on it that's really short. So you can't crack someone over the head with the handset. I've seen that. And you put in the number that you want to call and then you put in your personal access code.
And when you do that, the call just goes out. So it's almost like it's speed dialing as far as where you're calling. So if you try to call a number that's not in the system, it's not going through. If you don't have the PAC code, the personal access code, call's not going out. So again, the only real way he could get all this in the system is if he had access to other people.
This isn't something that could be done and shouted over the vents because the cops would hear it. You know, I don't see it. Either he used the phone and he had access to other people or he doesn't. The U.S. attorney put in, remember, in that motion to deny bail, The U.S. attorney said that he had people's PAC codes, that he had other phone numbers in there.
But keep in mind, they never said how he did that, did they?
That's a wise idea. They need to concentrate on getting his issues resolved. Apparently, they're giving him the best defense that they can.
It's like a plastic bag. It's a square plastic clear bag. It's almost like a big pillow. And over the years, it has shrunk. I know this because I was locked up for 10 years myself. I got several of these. So they've got like some off-brand cookies in there. off brand potato chips in there, some candy in there.
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