Lucas Miles

Absolutely. We're here at Pastor Jensen Franklin's church, which Jensen's like America's pastor. He's just, he's so good to us. He's been so generous with this whole event, incredible facility.

Absolutely. We're here at Pastor Jensen Franklin's church, which Jensen's like America's pastor. He's just, he's so good to us. He's been so generous with this whole event, incredible facility.

And we have expected today about 1800 pastors and faith leaders from all across the country that are going to be joining us here really as a time of refreshing, as a time of encouragement, really shoring up their understanding on some of these key topics and issues that I think are facing the church today. And I think really as a celebration together.

And we have expected today about 1800 pastors and faith leaders from all across the country that are going to be joining us here really as a time of refreshing, as a time of encouragement, really shoring up their understanding on some of these key topics and issues that I think are facing the church today. And I think really as a celebration together.

So we're looking forward to hearing from, you know, some of the top speakers in this nation that we've brought together and it's going to be an incredible event.

So we're looking forward to hearing from, you know, some of the top speakers in this nation that we've brought together and it's going to be an incredible event.

There's not many groups that are gathering people like this at this size. That's over about 500 senior pastors, spouses. We have ministry leaders, you know, associate pastors, worship pastors that are all gathering here. And this is, you know, sometimes just getting 30 pastors in a room is like herding cats and it's hard to do.

There's not many groups that are gathering people like this at this size. That's over about 500 senior pastors, spouses. We have ministry leaders, you know, associate pastors, worship pastors that are all gathering here. And this is, you know, sometimes just getting 30 pastors in a room is like herding cats and it's hard to do.

And that is one of our really central issues, is that we want to help unify the church around primary doctrine. Look, I think that it's beautiful that churches have individual, unique, secondary positions that they take, and they can celebrate within their churches. But we have to learn how to work together. and not allow those secondary issues separate us.

And that is one of our really central issues, is that we want to help unify the church around primary doctrine. Look, I think that it's beautiful that churches have individual, unique, secondary positions that they take, and they can celebrate within their churches. But we have to learn how to work together. and not allow those secondary issues separate us.

And I think that's why we saw the problems in this nation, especially over the last four years, get to where it got to, because the church remained largely silent on these issues. They're debating secondary problems rather than working together to really stand for liberty and freedom.

And I think that's why we saw the problems in this nation, especially over the last four years, get to where it got to, because the church remained largely silent on these issues. They're debating secondary problems rather than working together to really stand for liberty and freedom.

It's a secondary issue. And so, you know, look, and some of these issues are tertiary, you know, and we can get into worship styles and different things. Do we sing hymns or modern songs? Those are not the things that we should be debating about as brothers and sisters of Christ. We have things like the Apostles' Creed and the Nicene Creed to guide us, which are really—

It's a secondary issue. And so, you know, look, and some of these issues are tertiary, you know, and we can get into worship styles and different things. Do we sing hymns or modern songs? Those are not the things that we should be debating about as brothers and sisters of Christ. We have things like the Apostles' Creed and the Nicene Creed to guide us, which are really—

Those aren't scriptures themselves, but they're summaries of the truth of the New Testament, and these are the things we want to rally around so that we can really work together. If we're going to be in heaven together, we should learn how to work together on earth.

Those aren't scriptures themselves, but they're summaries of the truth of the New Testament, and these are the things we want to rally around so that we can really work together. If we're going to be in heaven together, we should learn how to work together on earth.

You know, there's so many pastors, they're like that prophet in a cave thinking that they're all by themselves, but they need reminded that the Lord's reserved thousands, you know, that have not bowed the knee to Baal and that are willing to stand beside them. And so I think that our pastors here, they find relationships, they find friendships. I think they also find educational components.

You know, there's so many pastors, they're like that prophet in a cave thinking that they're all by themselves, but they need reminded that the Lord's reserved thousands, you know, that have not bowed the knee to Baal and that are willing to stand beside them. And so I think that our pastors here, they find relationships, they find friendships. I think they also find educational components.

You know, pastors... Some of these guys are spending, you know, 20 to 40 hours a week sometimes preparing message series and things like this. And it sometimes makes it difficult for them to also, you know, read up on critical race theory and queer theory and understand, you know, issues of sovereign nations and these things.

You know, pastors... Some of these guys are spending, you know, 20 to 40 hours a week sometimes preparing message series and things like this. And it sometimes makes it difficult for them to also, you know, read up on critical race theory and queer theory and understand, you know, issues of sovereign nations and these things.

And so I think we're able to fast forward some of that understanding and really help equip them with verbiage and language that they can take to the pulpit to answer these real questions that their people are facing and asking. I love it.

And so I think we're able to fast forward some of that understanding and really help equip them with verbiage and language that they can take to the pulpit to answer these real questions that their people are facing and asking. I love it.

Yeah, you know, there's a thing within Christian theology called sphere sovereignty. And this is something I wrote about in my book, Woke Jesus. And I think it's a very... misunderstood or underrepresented aspect of the Christian faith. And I think a lot of pastors are ignorant to this. When you look at God as the creator, he established a world of order.

Yeah, you know, there's a thing within Christian theology called sphere sovereignty. And this is something I wrote about in my book, Woke Jesus. And I think it's a very... misunderstood or underrepresented aspect of the Christian faith. And I think a lot of pastors are ignorant to this. When you look at God as the creator, he established a world of order.

He took chaos and he brought order out of that. And this is one of the aspects of the mightiness of our God. And within that, we see authority given to kings and rulers over the nation. We see authority given to fathers and parents over their household and their children. We see authority given to elders over their churches.

He took chaos and he brought order out of that. And this is one of the aspects of the mightiness of our God. And within that, we see authority given to kings and rulers over the nation. We see authority given to fathers and parents over their household and their children. We see authority given to elders over their churches.

And so whenever you have something that tries to usurp authority or the ones who are delegated authority, they have delegated authority over those areas, there's violations. We saw this during COVID when governors are telling churches that they can't sing. Their authority stopped at the church border.

And so whenever you have something that tries to usurp authority or the ones who are delegated authority, they have delegated authority over those areas, there's violations. We saw this during COVID when governors are telling churches that they can't sing. Their authority stopped at the church border.

The pastors and the elders, it was their job to dictate and decide what was going to be, you know, what happened within those churches. We have individual sovereignty over ourselves.

The pastors and the elders, it was their job to dictate and decide what was going to be, you know, what happened within those churches. We have individual sovereignty over ourselves.

We when you know what we have here in America as a representative government, we have the we the people and we have a, you know, a president, the executive branch, and we have a right, I believe, a God given right to have strong, solid borders. And the porous nature that just allows people to come in and say, well, Jesus was an immigrant.

We when you know what we have here in America as a representative government, we have the we the people and we have a, you know, a president, the executive branch, and we have a right, I believe, a God given right to have strong, solid borders. And the porous nature that just allows people to come in and say, well, Jesus was an immigrant.

You know, this is a false idea that's propagated by the Christian left, you know, that Jesus was somehow an illegal immigrant in Egypt, despite the fact that was also under Roman rule. You know, there's no instance in Scripture that we see this. And so, look, as Christians, we want to love everybody.

You know, this is a false idea that's propagated by the Christian left, you know, that Jesus was somehow an illegal immigrant in Egypt, despite the fact that was also under Roman rule. You know, there's no instance in Scripture that we see this. And so, look, as Christians, we want to love everybody.

But people coming to this nation for the specific purpose of destroying our way of life or doing things illegal, and if they're willing to come in and commit a crime illegally from the beginning, from their entry, how good of citizens are they going to be in this nation? We need to reform immigration.

But people coming to this nation for the specific purpose of destroying our way of life or doing things illegal, and if they're willing to come in and commit a crime illegally from the beginning, from their entry, how good of citizens are they going to be in this nation? We need to reform immigration.

We need to create ways for people to get in and for there to be a wise and warm welcome for people legally. But this idea that Christianity should support a porous southern border, this is, I think, a false doctrine, and it's just a propaganda of the left.

We need to create ways for people to get in and for there to be a wise and warm welcome for people legally. But this idea that Christianity should support a porous southern border, this is, I think, a false doctrine, and it's just a propaganda of the left.

Yeah, I think that there's multiple things that are happening here. You know, we've talked a lot about this idea of there's true pastors, trembling pastors and traitorous pastors. I love that categorization. And I think a lot of these guys are in this trembling category. You know, we saw you've talked about this, you know, more than anybody. Prop 139 in Arizona.

Yeah, I think that there's multiple things that are happening here. You know, we've talked a lot about this idea of there's true pastors, trembling pastors and traitorous pastors. I love that categorization. And I think a lot of these guys are in this trembling category. You know, we saw you've talked about this, you know, more than anybody. Prop 139 in Arizona.

We saw so many pastors that were just silent the whole time and really gave way to radical racism. And if we take that same posture over the issue at our southern border or over some of these other social issues and then stand back a year later or two years later when we're so shocked that these things have passed and been allowed to happen. We can't be surprised with that. It's the church's job.

We saw so many pastors that were just silent the whole time and really gave way to radical racism. And if we take that same posture over the issue at our southern border or over some of these other social issues and then stand back a year later or two years later when we're so shocked that these things have passed and been allowed to happen. We can't be surprised with that. It's the church's job.

I believe we talk about this idea of separation of church and state. The state should always be far enough away from the church that it can never tell it what to do. It's not the state's job to dictate the church. The church is subject to God, but the church should always be close enough to the state in order to be her conscience.

I believe we talk about this idea of separation of church and state. The state should always be far enough away from the church that it can never tell it what to do. It's not the state's job to dictate the church. The church is subject to God, but the church should always be close enough to the state in order to be her conscience.

And we need more pastors that are rising up, that are speaking to governors and mayors and to leaders throughout our nation, reminding them of truth and biblical principles and objective morality so that they are able to see, I think, a righteous way to govern this nation.

And we need more pastors that are rising up, that are speaking to governors and mayors and to leaders throughout our nation, reminding them of truth and biblical principles and objective morality so that they are able to see, I think, a righteous way to govern this nation.

And I think that if we do that, if pastors recognize their position, we're going to realize that we are in a position of strength and that we have a lot more power than what we think we do.

And I think that if we do that, if pastors recognize their position, we're going to realize that we are in a position of strength and that we have a lot more power than what we think we do.

Yeah, so the book is called The Pagan Threat, Confronting America's Godless Uprising. It's available for pre-order right now. And in this book, I go through and I lay out kind of all of the different pagan ideologies that are really on the rise today and ultimately what we can do about as Christians. And a lot of this comes back to you see something like the Apostles' Creed.

Yeah, so the book is called The Pagan Threat, Confronting America's Godless Uprising. It's available for pre-order right now. And in this book, I go through and I lay out kind of all of the different pagan ideologies that are really on the rise today and ultimately what we can do about as Christians. And a lot of this comes back to you see something like the Apostles' Creed.

It gives us a roadmap, an apologetic for how we can navigate our faith in order to really confront these issues and ideally win people back the hearts and minds for Christ.

It gives us a roadmap, an apologetic for how we can navigate our faith in order to really confront these issues and ideally win people back the hearts and minds for Christ.

Yeah. So I wrote a book called Good God, The Christian Left, Woke Jesus. I also was part of Barna's book called Helping Millennials Thrive and Now the Pagan Threat.

Yeah. So I wrote a book called Good God, The Christian Left, Woke Jesus. I also was part of Barna's book called Helping Millennials Thrive and Now the Pagan Threat.

We've got to play it safe.

We've got to play it safe.

I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.