Lulu Garcia Navarro

And I read two articles that really touched.

chilled me.

One was about how film school students can't even focus enough to know the ending of a two-hour film.

And these are film school students.

And then I saw Matt Damon recently told Joe Rogan that Netflix wants its filmmakers to restate the plot of the movie four times for people who are double-screening.

And to double screening or like looking on their phone while watching the thing.

So you have to sort of restate it, restate it so that people who aren't really following along can kind of jump back in and that they also need to include a big action sequence in the first five minutes to capture the audience's attention.

And I'm just sort of wondering what I think was that.

No.

First of all, what you think.

But also, was any of that advice given to you?

I just also— What do you like about it?

Because I really thought a lot about this, you saying that.

I was thinking about ambition and working inside and outside of the Hollywood system.

And you were pretty clear that the studio made the bride better.

You felt like their input actually improved things, which is not something I think I hear very often, right?

When we started this conversation, I got this really strong sense of someone who's like on the cusp of this big adventure that they're about to have.

And I imagine now you're in L.A.

and you're just about to go on the big press tour and it's going to get released into the world and the critics are going to see it.

And I'm always so interested in that moment, right?