Maddie Levine-Wolf

a huge loss and my mom thinks about it every day. And so how do I process the loss of my own, of my own grandparents while also, you know, being there to support my mom and her everlasting grief. So, um, there's a lot of grief to hold and a lot of different capacities. So that's something that I'm kind of always navigating too. Um, so yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's like Barry said, it never stops.

a huge loss and my mom thinks about it every day. And so how do I process the loss of my own, of my own grandparents while also, you know, being there to support my mom and her everlasting grief. So, um, there's a lot of grief to hold and a lot of different capacities. So that's something that I'm kind of always navigating too. Um, so yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's like Barry said, it never stops.

And it's interesting. Everyone's process is different. But I'm looking forward to kind of diving in and talking more about different traditions around rituals and burials. So, yeah.

And it's interesting. Everyone's process is different. But I'm looking forward to kind of diving in and talking more about different traditions around rituals and burials. So, yeah.

Yeah, so I'm also Jewish. So a lot of what Barry said is also how my family mourns and grieves, especially in the immediate aftermath of death. And I always found the Shiva tradition relatively uplifting. I feel like at least in my family or my extended family, the sitting Shiva period was always more of like a celebration of life. which I feel like is really lovely.

Yeah, so I'm also Jewish. So a lot of what Barry said is also how my family mourns and grieves, especially in the immediate aftermath of death. And I always found the Shiva tradition relatively uplifting. I feel like at least in my family or my extended family, the sitting Shiva period was always more of like a celebration of life. which I feel like is really lovely.

And then also on a personal note, I started working with a rabbi several months ago, about a year ago, just to kind of like learn more about my own understanding of Judaism and dive into kind of like my own spirituality. And one of the things we're really focused on is

And then also on a personal note, I started working with a rabbi several months ago, about a year ago, just to kind of like learn more about my own understanding of Judaism and dive into kind of like my own spirituality. And one of the things we're really focused on is

unpacking kind of like mourning and death and mortality within Judaism so um you know that's obviously relevant to this episode so just continuing to kind of learn like how Judaism really looks at life um and the the rituals after death and um and you know all all that kind of stuff so um you know this is kind of just propelling that conversation in my mind.

unpacking kind of like mourning and death and mortality within Judaism so um you know that's obviously relevant to this episode so just continuing to kind of learn like how Judaism really looks at life um and the the rituals after death and um and you know all all that kind of stuff so um you know this is kind of just propelling that conversation in my mind.

i've just always thought that's kind of funny that we sit there and say beautiful things but the person doesn't get to hear them um so i've actually sorry i was just gonna say really good i've actually seen that in movies sheridan and it is kind of like i think for what we culturally do around death and loss i think it is somewhat of like a radical idea but i definitely i i

i've just always thought that's kind of funny that we sit there and say beautiful things but the person doesn't get to hear them um so i've actually sorry i was just gonna say really good i've actually seen that in movies sheridan and it is kind of like i think for what we culturally do around death and loss i think it is somewhat of like a radical idea but i definitely i i

I hear you, and I think, yeah, that's something I've thought about too. That's a really interesting idea, so I support you. Thank you.

I hear you, and I think, yeah, that's something I've thought about too. That's a really interesting idea, so I support you. Thank you.

maddie any any thoughts on the verbal aspects or the symbolic aspects that we all kind of deal with any any ideas on that i think that um the verbal is always difficult i mean i i feel like um i even though i've experienced loss myself and i it's it's always just hard to know what the right thing to say is um

maddie any any thoughts on the verbal aspects or the symbolic aspects that we all kind of deal with any any ideas on that i think that um the verbal is always difficult i mean i i feel like um i even though i've experienced loss myself and i it's it's always just hard to know what the right thing to say is um

even if, you know, it's not your first time supporting someone in their own loss, um, because you never know what, yeah, you never know what the right thing to say is. Um, you never want to say something that, you know, I'm sorry, I'm sorry if your loss is kind of like a standard, um, and you never want it to sound like inauthentic because it's said so often.

even if, you know, it's not your first time supporting someone in their own loss, um, because you never know what, yeah, you never know what the right thing to say is. Um, you never want to say something that, you know, I'm sorry, I'm sorry if your loss is kind of like a standard, um, and you never want it to sound like inauthentic because it's said so often.

And, you know, um, so I think for me, it's just a matter of like, um, telling the person, friend, family member that I'm here for them if they need anything. But it can be really difficult because like we already talked about, you know, everyone kind of processes and mourns and grieves in a different way. So yeah, I just, I think it's, it's challenging.

And, you know, um, so I think for me, it's just a matter of like, um, telling the person, friend, family member that I'm here for them if they need anything. But it can be really difficult because like we already talked about, you know, everyone kind of processes and mourns and grieves in a different way. So yeah, I just, I think it's, it's challenging.