Manon

I mean, when I started working here, Peggy just moved from Utrecht.

I mean, when I started working here, Peggy just moved from Utrecht.

That assessment was several sessions over a longer period of time and actually really get to know the family, get to know the kids.

That assessment was several sessions over a longer period of time and actually really get to know the family, get to know the kids.

So it takes at least half a year. But what we say, we take the time we need. So you cannot pinpoint me on how much time we have.

So it takes at least half a year. But what we say, we take the time we need. So you cannot pinpoint me on how much time we have.

Well, yeah, of course we needed proof of the effectiveness of the treatment.

Well, yeah, of course we needed proof of the effectiveness of the treatment.

There was the case publication. The FG case study? Yeah, yeah.

There was the case publication. The FG case study? Yeah, yeah.

That's the 2011 study.

That's the 2011 study.

Yeah, well, that was the first one that did some evaluation of really the medical intervention. The Dutch protocol. The Dutch protocol.

Yeah, well, that was the first one that did some evaluation of really the medical intervention. The Dutch protocol. The Dutch protocol.

In general, I think people were sort of convinced, yeah, this is so clear-cut if you look at this. Yeah.

In general, I think people were sort of convinced, yeah, this is so clear-cut if you look at this. Yeah.

So these were the very first children that were treated here. They called themselves gender kids. I have gender because the whole word gender identity disorder was too complicated. So they just said, I have gender.

So these were the very first children that were treated here. They called themselves gender kids. I have gender because the whole word gender identity disorder was too complicated. So they just said, I have gender.

So, for example, Manon.

So, for example, Manon.