Marion Nestle

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375 appearances 4 recordings 4 series first heard Feb 2025 last heard 5 Jun

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It's Been a Minute · Eggs are expensive, but are they safe? · 14 Feb 2025 podcast

I think the moment is particularly alarming because... We have seen this infiltrate our food supply and things that we take for granted, like milk, like eggs, in a way that just hadn't been really apparent to the average consumer before this. And we've seen more people getting infected. And there were hopes that when there was a spillover from wild birds into dairy cattle—

That would kind of be contained. It would burn out. And that hasn't happened. We continue to see it spreading in cattle. And scientists continue to track ways in which this could become more dangerous. And I think it just has kind of reached a critical mass of concern right now.

And if I can point to something that Marion brought up, this idea that we don't necessarily know what's going on and don't want to think about it. We saw this last year when we realized, oh yeah, there's viral material from bird flu on our store shelves all over the country.

And then, of course, there was a huge effort to test all of this and determine, okay, it's pasteurized, it's safe, you're not going to get infected from milk being sold on retail stores. But It was a moment of, oh, wow, yeah, I'm drinking something that has remnants of bird flu in it. And I don't know how long that stayed in people's minds.

Well, it's been incredibly challenging bridging these two areas of public health, the human side and the animal side. You see USDA does all the animal testing and handles that stuff. Then you have CDC and other folks looking for infections in humans. And, you know, there's limited authority on the human side.

So it's been a challenge throughout the last year as we've seen this response going on, making these decisions. Different groups speak to each other. And also, of course, the industry, the dairy industry, the egg industry, you know, wants to be protective of kind of who's identified as having outbreaks. They don't want their business to be harmed.

And this all makes it really hard sometimes for from a communication standpoint.

So RFK has this messaging around raw milk, right? We're talking about bird flu. He's a big proponent of raw milk and talking about getting all kinds of additives and kind of pesticides out of our food. And at the same time, the platform of the Trump administration is generally deregulate things. So there are internal kind of

tensions here around how all of this is going to happen when we think about just regulation around food and ingredients in general. I mean, when we think about bird flu specifically, RFK Jr. has made it clear that, you know, he doesn't really think the vaccines are any good. I mean, he said they appear dangerous, you know, last year on Twitter.

And he would have huge influence over how this response is handled as the head of the Department of Health and Human Services.

Of course.

Let's go. Sure.

Leprosy.

Arizona.

It was fun. Thanks.

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