Mark Bayer

sure glad to and i have different ways of explaining and different elements but one thing that i do is and this is difficult for people to do regardless of their background which is really distilling complexity and complicated things you have so many details that you know and you have to figure out how do i convey the thing that is going to be most important to the person receiving the information

sure glad to and i have different ways of explaining and different elements but one thing that i do is and this is difficult for people to do regardless of their background which is really distilling complexity and complicated things you have so many details that you know and you have to figure out how do i convey the thing that is going to be most important to the person receiving the information

And so I created this free infographic. It's called 11 Keys to Translating Complexity. And anyone, any listener can pick it up. It's at complexitymadeclear.com. You can download it and you'll see it's a free resource. You'll see these 11 things that over my 20 years of work in the U.S.

And so I created this free infographic. It's called 11 Keys to Translating Complexity. And anyone, any listener can pick it up. It's at complexitymadeclear.com. You can download it and you'll see it's a free resource. You'll see these 11 things that over my 20 years of work in the U.S.

Congress, I've really found to be helpful in conveying your points in ways that are first accurate, and then also that are interesting, that are understandable, and that are short. Spears said, brevity is the heart of wit. And it can be really hard to get a brief piece or soundbite, for example, in our world that really reflects it.

Congress, I've really found to be helpful in conveying your points in ways that are first accurate, and then also that are interesting, that are understandable, and that are short. Spears said, brevity is the heart of wit. And it can be really hard to get a brief piece or soundbite, for example, in our world that really reflects it.

I also would just say that's the kind of beginning of a conversation. People, sometimes my students will say, yeah, that metaphor, that simile that you want me to use, it isn't exactly the thing that I'm talking about. It's similar, right? And I say... Exactly. It is not the thing. It's to get the person oriented to your idea, like on the same page.

I also would just say that's the kind of beginning of a conversation. People, sometimes my students will say, yeah, that metaphor, that simile that you want me to use, it isn't exactly the thing that I'm talking about. It's similar, right? And I say... Exactly. It is not the thing. It's to get the person oriented to your idea, like on the same page.

Or maybe if you want to think of it, you want to bring these people into the ballpark, right? And so they're outside, they don't know what it's like inside. So you don't just sit them in the front row right behind home plate in a baseball analogy. You have to get them oriented first, right? This is what the game is about.

Or maybe if you want to think of it, you want to bring these people into the ballpark, right? And so they're outside, they don't know what it's like inside. So you don't just sit them in the front row right behind home plate in a baseball analogy. You have to get them oriented first, right? This is what the game is about.

Before you obviously say, okay, you're on the field and you're playing now because it's too big a gap to try to bridge.

Before you obviously say, okay, you're on the field and you're playing now because it's too big a gap to try to bridge.

Absolutely, Vince. And that is so important, particularly since I've heard of PhDs when they apply for a job beyond academia, they will leave off the fact they have a PhD, which to me is heartbreaking because not only for the skills I'm going to talk about in a second, to signal that you have those.

Absolutely, Vince. And that is so important, particularly since I've heard of PhDs when they apply for a job beyond academia, they will leave off the fact they have a PhD, which to me is heartbreaking because not only for the skills I'm going to talk about in a second, to signal that you have those.

But also, as you referenced, the blood, sweat, and tears that went into years and years of training, and then you're just going to leave off the PhD and your resume because somebody told you that an employer, say, at a big company, at an investment house, whatever it is, will see that and think, oh, this person's too theoretical or Somehow that training isn't relevant.

But also, as you referenced, the blood, sweat, and tears that went into years and years of training, and then you're just going to leave off the PhD and your resume because somebody told you that an employer, say, at a big company, at an investment house, whatever it is, will see that and think, oh, this person's too theoretical or Somehow that training isn't relevant.

That training is so relevant. And some of the things that make it particularly useful, one of them is curiosity, figuring out like, why does this happen? Why does it work like this? Maybe it could work in a different way. Because when you're, for example, in the policy world, You're doing that all the time.

That training is so relevant. And some of the things that make it particularly useful, one of them is curiosity, figuring out like, why does this happen? Why does it work like this? Maybe it could work in a different way. Because when you're, for example, in the policy world, You're doing that all the time.

You're looking around the landscape and you're saying, oh, I see that the United States doesn't require the screening, the physical screening of all the air cargo that goes on a passenger plane. So this is a real example that I worked on really intensely over years with my boss. And you say, why is that? What do they do instead? Is that a good idea? What are the risks of doing that?

You're looking around the landscape and you're saying, oh, I see that the United States doesn't require the screening, the physical screening of all the air cargo that goes on a passenger plane. So this is a real example that I worked on really intensely over years with my boss. And you say, why is that? What do they do instead? Is that a good idea? What are the risks of doing that?