Mark Krikorian

And if we have to import blueberries, because there's just no way to grow, not blueberries, but blackberries, no way to grow them without massive, cheap third-world labor, well, then let's just import the blueberries instead of import the blueberry pickers. But The point is we need agriculture to evolve the way the rest of the economy has away from the medieval way that it's now done.

And if we have to import blueberries, because there's just no way to grow, not blueberries, but blackberries, no way to grow them without massive, cheap third-world labor, well, then let's just import the blueberries instead of import the blueberry pickers. But The point is we need agriculture to evolve the way the rest of the economy has away from the medieval way that it's now done.

They use modern technology, but the labor relations are medieval. It's just incredible.

They use modern technology, but the labor relations are medieval. It's just incredible.

They use modern technology, but the labor relations are medieval. It's just incredible.

All of which, there is real mechanization alternatives that cost money, and so employers don't want to pursue them.

All of which, there is real mechanization alternatives that cost money, and so employers don't want to pursue them.

All of which, there is real mechanization alternatives that cost money, and so employers don't want to pursue them.

Yeah, I mean, it's not all going to get stalled, but I think your basic point is that maybe they've raised expectations too high is valid. That could be a problem. But, you know, as JD said, I think it was after the election or maybe even during the campaign, he said, look, let's deport the first million and then we'll work on the second million and then we'll work on the third million.

Yeah, I mean, it's not all going to get stalled, but I think your basic point is that maybe they've raised expectations too high is valid. That could be a problem. But, you know, as JD said, I think it was after the election or maybe even during the campaign, he said, look, let's deport the first million and then we'll work on the second million and then we'll work on the third million.

Yeah, I mean, it's not all going to get stalled, but I think your basic point is that maybe they've raised expectations too high is valid. That could be a problem. But, you know, as JD said, I think it was after the election or maybe even during the campaign, he said, look, let's deport the first million and then we'll work on the second million and then we'll work on the third million.

In other words, one thing at a time. But yes, I think the presidents may have raised expectations higher than is realistic, but it's not even so much that there's Washington dysfunction and paralysis and all that. There is some to that. It's just that you know, how many people can you deport at one time?

In other words, one thing at a time. But yes, I think the presidents may have raised expectations higher than is realistic, but it's not even so much that there's Washington dysfunction and paralysis and all that. There is some to that. It's just that you know, how many people can you deport at one time?

In other words, one thing at a time. But yes, I think the presidents may have raised expectations higher than is realistic, but it's not even so much that there's Washington dysfunction and paralysis and all that. There is some to that. It's just that you know, how many people can you deport at one time?

I mean, this isn't, you know, a Cecil B. DeMille movie with Ten Commandments and everybody's, you know, masses of people crossing the Red Sea or something. I mean, this takes work. Yeah. And you know, a significant number will leave on their own because that's the insight is you have fewer people coming in and more people going out and so the number shrinks. Shrinkage

I mean, this isn't, you know, a Cecil B. DeMille movie with Ten Commandments and everybody's, you know, masses of people crossing the Red Sea or something. I mean, this takes work. Yeah. And you know, a significant number will leave on their own because that's the insight is you have fewer people coming in and more people going out and so the number shrinks. Shrinkage

I mean, this isn't, you know, a Cecil B. DeMille movie with Ten Commandments and everybody's, you know, masses of people crossing the Red Sea or something. I mean, this takes work. Yeah. And you know, a significant number will leave on their own because that's the insight is you have fewer people coming in and more people going out and so the number shrinks. Shrinkage

In other words, it's the vector, it's the direction things are going is the key thing to look at. And will they deport everybody by the end of this term? No, they're not going to. In fact, they're probably never going to be deporting everybody because I'm kind of a squish on amnesty eventually. They need to restore control, they need to squeeze the number down.

In other words, it's the vector, it's the direction things are going is the key thing to look at. And will they deport everybody by the end of this term? No, they're not going to. In fact, they're probably never going to be deporting everybody because I'm kind of a squish on amnesty eventually. They need to restore control, they need to squeeze the number down.

In other words, it's the vector, it's the direction things are going is the key thing to look at. And will they deport everybody by the end of this term? No, they're not going to. In fact, they're probably never going to be deporting everybody because I'm kind of a squish on amnesty eventually. They need to restore control, they need to squeeze the number down.