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Mark Siljander

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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
534. How Some Muslim Countries Navigate Extremism | Mark Siljander

It's another thing if you're... Ignorant. Ignorant and trying to become less so. but still ignorant. Yeah, which is, that's a better place to stand always, I think. So this showed me something quite dynamic that don't presume that I know everything. So we were presenting to the scholars findings in a similar fashion. This is now back in Sudan. Back in Khartoum, Sudan, with Omar al-Bashir.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
534. How Some Muslim Countries Navigate Extremism | Mark Siljander

It's another thing if you're... Ignorant. Ignorant and trying to become less so. but still ignorant. Yeah, which is, that's a better place to stand always, I think. So this showed me something quite dynamic that don't presume that I know everything. So we were presenting to the scholars findings in a similar fashion. This is now back in Sudan. Back in Khartoum, Sudan, with Omar al-Bashir.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
534. How Some Muslim Countries Navigate Extremism | Mark Siljander

And to the disdain of our government at the time, you know, which was the Bush administration. They were just so angry with me going there. Because I've been there 24 times, I told you. And at this time, maybe this was only my second trip with him. And on this second trip, after talking to scholars for hours, The president leaps out of his seat, actually. And I thought we said something wrong.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
534. How Some Muslim Countries Navigate Extremism | Mark Siljander

And to the disdain of our government at the time, you know, which was the Bush administration. They were just so angry with me going there. Because I've been there 24 times, I told you. And at this time, maybe this was only my second trip with him. And on this second trip, after talking to scholars for hours, The president leaps out of his seat, actually. And I thought we said something wrong.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
534. How Some Muslim Countries Navigate Extremism | Mark Siljander

And to the disdain of our government at the time, you know, which was the Bush administration. They were just so angry with me going there. Because I've been there 24 times, I told you. And at this time, maybe this was only my second trip with him. And on this second trip, after talking to scholars for hours, The president leaps out of his seat, actually. And I thought we said something wrong.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
534. How Some Muslim Countries Navigate Extremism | Mark Siljander

I've seen this before. The meeting's over. Goodbye. Right. I said, well, I'm sorry, Your Excellency, if we said anything that offended. Oh, no. He says, we're having dinner.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
534. How Some Muslim Countries Navigate Extremism | Mark Siljander

I've seen this before. The meeting's over. Goodbye. Right. I said, well, I'm sorry, Your Excellency, if we said anything that offended. Oh, no. He says, we're having dinner.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
534. How Some Muslim Countries Navigate Extremism | Mark Siljander

I've seen this before. The meeting's over. Goodbye. Right. I said, well, I'm sorry, Your Excellency, if we said anything that offended. Oh, no. He says, we're having dinner.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
534. How Some Muslim Countries Navigate Extremism | Mark Siljander

And that's a good sign. It turned out, I thought, a disaster. And he opened the sliding doors, and there was a table for 30-some people lined up. We all went in. We were sitting together, breaking bread. He always asked me to pray, because they don't pray before the food, typically. They do a bismillah, which is in the name of God, and that's enough.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
534. How Some Muslim Countries Navigate Extremism | Mark Siljander

And that's a good sign. It turned out, I thought, a disaster. And he opened the sliding doors, and there was a table for 30-some people lined up. We all went in. We were sitting together, breaking bread. He always asked me to pray, because they don't pray before the food, typically. They do a bismillah, which is in the name of God, and that's enough.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
534. How Some Muslim Countries Navigate Extremism | Mark Siljander

And that's a good sign. It turned out, I thought, a disaster. And he opened the sliding doors, and there was a table for 30-some people lined up. We all went in. We were sitting together, breaking bread. He always asked me to pray, because they don't pray before the food, typically. They do a bismillah, which is in the name of God, and that's enough.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
534. How Some Muslim Countries Navigate Extremism | Mark Siljander

So he then, at this dinner, Jordan, said, well, now, Mark, you were in Congress. I said, yes. And you were in the UN. I said, yes. You know, I can't accept this UN resolution to deploy peacekeepers in Darfur. He said, I know you can't. He said, what do you think I should do now?

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
534. How Some Muslim Countries Navigate Extremism | Mark Siljander

So he then, at this dinner, Jordan, said, well, now, Mark, you were in Congress. I said, yes. And you were in the UN. I said, yes. You know, I can't accept this UN resolution to deploy peacekeepers in Darfur. He said, I know you can't. He said, what do you think I should do now?

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
534. How Some Muslim Countries Navigate Extremism | Mark Siljander

So he then, at this dinner, Jordan, said, well, now, Mark, you were in Congress. I said, yes. And you were in the UN. I said, yes. You know, I can't accept this UN resolution to deploy peacekeepers in Darfur. He said, I know you can't. He said, what do you think I should do now?

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
534. How Some Muslim Countries Navigate Extremism | Mark Siljander

Wow.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
534. How Some Muslim Countries Navigate Extremism | Mark Siljander

Wow.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
534. How Some Muslim Countries Navigate Extremism | Mark Siljander

Wow.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
534. How Some Muslim Countries Navigate Extremism | Mark Siljander

Who opened the door for the elephant to come in?

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
534. How Some Muslim Countries Navigate Extremism | Mark Siljander

Who opened the door for the elephant to come in?

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
534. How Some Muslim Countries Navigate Extremism | Mark Siljander

Who opened the door for the elephant to come in?