Marty Baron

So we codified it.

We wrote it down and he reviewed it.

This was done in coordination with our lawyers and our publisher at the time, Catherine Weymouth.

And he reviewed it.

He thought it was fine.

He never interfered ever again, even though we did publish national security information subsequent to that.

And he never interfered in our news coverage.

He didn't, not even about Amazon.

I never heard from him about it at all.

I mean, we had a reviewer who didn't like a single Amazon product, I have to tell you, or service.

And he mocked him, you know, and I never heard a word from him.

So

That was good.

I mean, I thought that was appropriate and I appreciated that support and that he was willing to give us our independence.

And so given that that's what happened, that's what I wrote about in the book.

They seemed to be authentic at the time.

I mean, he supported that with subsequent behavior.

As I said, he resisted the pressure from Donald Trump, called for Trump to be deposed.

You know, there were people, when they lost the cloud computing contract for $10 billion, the joke in the business was it didn't just cost him $250 million to buy the post, it cost him $10 billion, $250 million to buy the post.

And I once told him that joke and he laughed.