Matt

I appreciate that. And I think that's, I mean, look, it's, I want to say a lot of people have been in the fight from the beginning. So it hasn't been a lot, but there's certainly been a lot more than just me. The one thing I will say is you said we were in the ideological minority from the beginning.

I appreciate that. And I think that's, I mean, look, it's, I want to say a lot of people have been in the fight from the beginning. So it hasn't been a lot, but there's certainly been a lot more than just me. The one thing I will say is you said we were in the ideological minority from the beginning.

I think we were in the minority, but not actually the ideological minority, which is what made it so frustrating early on is that, you know, I can remember going out there in like 2016, 2017 and arguing about this issue of transgenderism. And the kind of blank stares you would get from people, even though I know that most of them agree with me.

I think we were in the minority, but not actually the ideological minority, which is what made it so frustrating early on is that, you know, I can remember going out there in like 2016, 2017 and arguing about this issue of transgenderism. And the kind of blank stares you would get from people, even though I know that most of them agree with me.

You know, I'm sitting here saying a woman is a female. A man is a male. You can't cross between the two. Transgenderism is not a real thing. It's a category error. It doesn't exist. And. there weren't a lot of people cheering us on, even though I knew that most people certainly agreed with that. When we did our film, What is a Woman?

You know, I'm sitting here saying a woman is a female. A man is a male. You can't cross between the two. Transgenderism is not a real thing. It's a category error. It doesn't exist. And. there weren't a lot of people cheering us on, even though I knew that most people certainly agreed with that. When we did our film, What is a Woman?

And we went out to the street and did our kind of man on the street interviews. This is back in 2021 that we would have been filming it in 2022. And we would stop normal people on the street, just walking by and ask them these basic questions about what is a woman? Should men be allowed in the women's restroom? Do you think it's okay to give kids...

And we went out to the street and did our kind of man on the street interviews. This is back in 2021 that we would have been filming it in 2022. And we would stop normal people on the street, just walking by and ask them these basic questions about what is a woman? Should men be allowed in the women's restroom? Do you think it's okay to give kids...

the kinds of drugs that we give to sex offenders to chemically castrate them, these kinds of questions. And the vast majority of people would, didn't want to answer, or they would answer in the affirmative to allowing men in women's restrooms.

the kinds of drugs that we give to sex offenders to chemically castrate them, these kinds of questions. And the vast majority of people would, didn't want to answer, or they would answer in the affirmative to allowing men in women's restrooms.

Even though I knew I'm looking them in the eye, I know you don't actually think that there's no way you actually think that, but people were, people were afraid. And so, Uh, I said all along, our job was less convincing people. I don't think most people need to be convinced that only women can have babies. You know, that's the kind of thing that we all understand as human beings.

Even though I knew I'm looking them in the eye, I know you don't actually think that there's no way you actually think that, but people were, people were afraid. And so, Uh, I said all along, our job was less convincing people. I don't think most people need to be convinced that only women can have babies. You know, that's the kind of thing that we all understand as human beings.

I think it's less convincing people and more, uh, convincing, not convincing people of the fact of it, but convincing them that it's okay to convicting people. Thank you. And convincing them that it's okay to speak up. It's okay that you know this basic truth and to speak it and to stand by it.

I think it's less convincing people and more, uh, convincing, not convincing people of the fact of it, but convincing them that it's okay to convicting people. Thank you. And convincing them that it's okay to speak up. It's okay that you know this basic truth and to speak it and to stand by it.

Well, I mean, it kind of depends on how far back you want to trace it. You could trace it all the way back to the Garden of Eden, I suppose, if you wanted to, the fall of man. But it... Really, what we consider, you know, the modern gender ideology, the modern transgenderism movement goes back to the mid-20th century to guys like John Money, Alfred Kinsey.

Well, I mean, it kind of depends on how far back you want to trace it. You could trace it all the way back to the Garden of Eden, I suppose, if you wanted to, the fall of man. But it... Really, what we consider, you know, the modern gender ideology, the modern transgenderism movement goes back to the mid-20th century to guys like John Money, Alfred Kinsey.

I mean, really, John Money is kind of the father of gender ideology. And he was one of the first to get this idea. and to promote this idea that there's a distinction between sex and gender. And that was a really key move is to draw this line of delineation between your sex, what we call your biological sex, which of course is redundant. You don't need to say that. Sex is biological.

I mean, really, John Money is kind of the father of gender ideology. And he was one of the first to get this idea. and to promote this idea that there's a distinction between sex and gender. And that was a really key move is to draw this line of delineation between your sex, what we call your biological sex, which of course is redundant. You don't need to say that. Sex is biological.

And your gender, which is the way he looked at it. It's just how you present yourself in the world. And there's this distinction between the two. And it was very key to draw this distinction. But then what you notice as time goes on and this stuff becomes more mainstream, that this distinction between sex and gender was then collapsed. And that happened somewhat recently.

And your gender, which is the way he looked at it. It's just how you present yourself in the world. And there's this distinction between the two. And it was very key to draw this distinction. But then what you notice as time goes on and this stuff becomes more mainstream, that this distinction between sex and gender was then collapsed. And that happened somewhat recently.