Matt

Again, it was like, this is the turning point. They're at the turn, but that's why it's confusing, is the way the story is described, there should have been more ice cover.

Again, it was like, this is the turning point. They're at the turn, but that's why it's confusing, is the way the story is described, there should have been more ice cover.

Because they're basically describing there being all of these islands in the sea between Greenland, basically in the Davis Strait. They're talking about there being islands that aren't there now.

Because they're basically describing there being all of these islands in the sea between Greenland, basically in the Davis Strait. They're talking about there being islands that aren't there now.

No, it was hot. It was a temperature maximum.

No, it was hot. It was a temperature maximum.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yes. So basically in the mid-first millennium, it got really cold.

Yes. So basically in the mid-first millennium, it got really cold.

And then it got really warm, and then it got really cold.

And then it got really warm, and then it got really cold.

But the glaciers didn't get that big during the Little Ice Age. Well, that's the problem is that this area should not have like even if you look at the sea floor, there's nothing that's even approaching the surface.

But the glaciers didn't get that big during the Little Ice Age. Well, that's the problem is that this area should not have like even if you look at the sea floor, there's nothing that's even approaching the surface.

Mm hmm. So you kind of think they must have been icebergs. But they're not described as icebergs, they're described as islands, and they clearly knew the difference.

Mm hmm. So you kind of think they must have been icebergs. But they're not described as icebergs, they're described as islands, and they clearly knew the difference.

I don't know. But basically, they go from the western settlement to the bear isles that aren't there. Then they go to the land of the flat stones, and then the land of the forest, which just has an island of one bear off to the southeast. And then they go south, where they go who knows where. Oh, also, Torvald, in the one story, it sounds like he dies on the eastern coast of Newfoundland.

I don't know. But basically, they go from the western settlement to the bear isles that aren't there. Then they go to the land of the flat stones, and then the land of the forest, which just has an island of one bear off to the southeast. And then they go south, where they go who knows where. Oh, also, Torvald, in the one story, it sounds like he dies on the eastern coast of Newfoundland.

In the other one, he's described as dying on a river that flows from east to west. After sailing northward with the land on the port side. So they sail north from somewhere, either Newfoundland or Belle Isle. They sail north and then west. And then the lands on the port side. They sail north and then west.

In the other one, he's described as dying on a river that flows from east to west. After sailing northward with the land on the port side. So they sail north from somewhere, either Newfoundland or Belle Isle. They sail north and then west. And then the lands on the port side. They sail north and then west.