Matthew Campbell

And for people, for younger people like me, it seems, we're moving companies a lot more now. And we're, and like, there's a lot more individual contributors or you're not like technically fully employed or you're a 10, nine, whatever it's called when you're, you know, you're consultant or whatever the case may be. What options then do you have? And

That's made it really challenging, I think, over the last year for me.

That's made it really challenging, I think, over the last year for me.

Well, so that was the case, wasn't it? I didn't know what I was going to do, but I knew that I couldn't afford the insurance rate and I couldn't afford insurance. So, I mean, this sounds terrible, but there was this running joke that I had that it's like when it was icy out and there's some steps that I have. And I would always say, I can't fall down the steps today. Yeah.

Well, so that was the case, wasn't it? I didn't know what I was going to do, but I knew that I couldn't afford the insurance rate and I couldn't afford insurance. So, I mean, this sounds terrible, but there was this running joke that I had that it's like when it was icy out and there's some steps that I have. And I would always say, I can't fall down the steps today. Yeah.

Because I knew if I fell down those steps, I could have a financial, I could be financially ruined for, I mean, years. Yeah.

Because I knew if I fell down those steps, I could have a financial, I could be financially ruined for, I mean, years. Yeah.

Well, that was another joke I had. I was like, if I go to the emergency room, my name is John Doe. I do not have a name. I don't exist. Right. You don't have a card. I don't have a card. I don't have an ID. I have nothing on me. Treat my broken leg and.

Well, that was another joke I had. I was like, if I go to the emergency room, my name is John Doe. I do not have a name. I don't exist. Right. You don't have a card. I don't have a card. I don't have an ID. I have nothing on me. Treat my broken leg and.

Get me out the door. And, but again, I think that's kind of where like the public health side of me kicked in. It's like, I understood that like that could potentially ruin me financially for a very long time. And so, you know, I get it.

Get me out the door. And, but again, I think that's kind of where like the public health side of me kicked in. It's like, I understood that like that could potentially ruin me financially for a very long time. And so, you know, I get it.

Yeah. I was just going to say that, like, I want to provide a little bit of context. I kind of, when I made that decision, I knew that I would have health insurance again in a month. So it's like there was only a small window, but for so many people, that's not the case. And it's like, you have to think about that.

Yeah. I was just going to say that, like, I want to provide a little bit of context. I kind of, when I made that decision, I knew that I would have health insurance again in a month. So it's like there was only a small window, but for so many people, that's not the case. And it's like, you have to think about that.

Like I knew that I could potentially be strapped with a lot of medical debt if I need it. I mean, if something was to happen, but also for that month, you know, how am I going to afford my bills? How am I going to afford my car payment? How am I going to afford my groceries? How am I going to afford all of the other essentials that are just as important? And you kind of have to balance that.

Like I knew that I could potentially be strapped with a lot of medical debt if I need it. I mean, if something was to happen, but also for that month, you know, how am I going to afford my bills? How am I going to afford my car payment? How am I going to afford my groceries? How am I going to afford all of the other essentials that are just as important? And you kind of have to balance that.

So I mean, I'm a, a big proponent of some sort of non-employer sponsored health insurance system that allows us to move. And I think, especially nowadays, the job environment is so different that the benefits, and even if you do get a new job, you know, there's often a waiting period of at least a month before anything kicks in.

So I mean, I'm a, a big proponent of some sort of non-employer sponsored health insurance system that allows us to move. And I think, especially nowadays, the job environment is so different that the benefits, and even if you do get a new job, you know, there's often a waiting period of at least a month before anything kicks in.

So if you are moving jobs every other, you know, every year, every other year, the benefits you had last year are no longer good this year are no longer good in six months. I mean, it's,

So if you are moving jobs every other, you know, every year, every other year, the benefits you had last year are no longer good this year are no longer good in six months. I mean, it's,

Right. The doctor I had last month is now recovered.