Mellody Hobson

Correct. I think the thing is when you can anchor it, not only do you not have fear, you're kind of excited about what you're learning because everyone who's read the book, and I've had so many different types of people read the book, they always say to me, Who knew? Yes. And they feel so empowered by knowledge that they think that they hold that other people don't have. That's right.

And it makes it especially for kids. Kids love facts, but this is not an encyclopedia.

And it makes it especially for kids. Kids love facts, but this is not an encyclopedia.

And it makes it especially for kids. Kids love facts, but this is not an encyclopedia.

Yes. So my first draft of the book I gave to my husband. Yes. And who knows a thing or two about telling stories? Yes. And he looked at me and he said, it's too sophisticated. And I was like a little offended. I was like, I know how to talk about money. He's like, I think it's a little sophisticated. So I gave it to Everest, who was eight years old, nine years old, the first draft.

Yes. So my first draft of the book I gave to my husband. Yes. And who knows a thing or two about telling stories? Yes. And he looked at me and he said, it's too sophisticated. And I was like a little offended. I was like, I know how to talk about money. He's like, I think it's a little sophisticated. So I gave it to Everest, who was eight years old, nine years old, the first draft.

Yes. So my first draft of the book I gave to my husband. Yes. And who knows a thing or two about telling stories? Yes. And he looked at me and he said, it's too sophisticated. And I was like a little offended. I was like, I know how to talk about money. He's like, I think it's a little sophisticated. So I gave it to Everest, who was eight years old, nine years old, the first draft.

And I said, because I started when she was eight, I said, read it and circle every word you don't know. And it came back with a lot of circles. Yes. And so I said, you know what? I'm not dumbing this down. I'm going to explain every word that she circled. So sometimes I gave the phonetic definition. Sometimes I gave the definition.

And I said, because I started when she was eight, I said, read it and circle every word you don't know. And it came back with a lot of circles. Yes. And so I said, you know what? I'm not dumbing this down. I'm going to explain every word that she circled. So sometimes I gave the phonetic definition. Sometimes I gave the definition.

And I said, because I started when she was eight, I said, read it and circle every word you don't know. And it came back with a lot of circles. Yes. And so I said, you know what? I'm not dumbing this down. I'm going to explain every word that she circled. So sometimes I gave the phonetic definition. Sometimes I gave the definition.

We did funny, hilarious footnotes, all sorts of things where I said, I'm not going to walk away from the concept, but I do understand I need to break it down another level. And so she read multiple drafts until I felt that she truly understood the concepts, which I was just literally using her as my, you know, one person focus group child.

We did funny, hilarious footnotes, all sorts of things where I said, I'm not going to walk away from the concept, but I do understand I need to break it down another level. And so she read multiple drafts until I felt that she truly understood the concepts, which I was just literally using her as my, you know, one person focus group child.

We did funny, hilarious footnotes, all sorts of things where I said, I'm not going to walk away from the concept, but I do understand I need to break it down another level. And so she read multiple drafts until I felt that she truly understood the concepts, which I was just literally using her as my, you know, one person focus group child.

Then we took it to expert readers and did peer review with teachers and things like that.

Then we took it to expert readers and did peer review with teachers and things like that.

Then we took it to expert readers and did peer review with teachers and things like that.

There are so many facts, and I was just so... I mean, I spent a long time researching. Mm-hmm. And everything had to be vetted and we had to make sure everything was absolutely true. But one of my favorite ones is we think about the first official credit card having been born basically 75 years ago.

There are so many facts, and I was just so... I mean, I spent a long time researching. Mm-hmm. And everything had to be vetted and we had to make sure everything was absolutely true. But one of my favorite ones is we think about the first official credit card having been born basically 75 years ago.

There are so many facts, and I was just so... I mean, I spent a long time researching. Mm-hmm. And everything had to be vetted and we had to make sure everything was absolutely true. But one of my favorite ones is we think about the first official credit card having been born basically 75 years ago.

When this businessman was traveling in New York and he forgot his wallet. He had dinner. Right. And he didn't have any money and he ultimately invented what was called the diner's card for dining. It was originally cardboard, not plastic, even though we call credit cards plastic. Right. But that wasn't really the first credit card.