Mike Lazerow

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I love it.

I love it.

I love it.

He's like the Zen master who makes you think about more than just golf.

He's like the Zen master who makes you think about more than just golf.

He's like the Zen master who makes you think about more than just golf.

So how you recover is how you do everything as an entrepreneur. You show up to work and The proverbial, you know what, hits the fan and you just got to start shoveling. You never know what clients are going to churn and leave you, what employees are going to try to quit. Do you get sued? All of this stuff that we've all dealt with, that happens to be a big pile that you need to recover from.

So how you recover is how you do everything as an entrepreneur. You show up to work and The proverbial, you know what, hits the fan and you just got to start shoveling. You never know what clients are going to churn and leave you, what employees are going to try to quit. Do you get sued? All of this stuff that we've all dealt with, that happens to be a big pile that you need to recover from.

So how you recover is how you do everything as an entrepreneur. You show up to work and The proverbial, you know what, hits the fan and you just got to start shoveling. You never know what clients are going to churn and leave you, what employees are going to try to quit. Do you get sued? All of this stuff that we've all dealt with, that happens to be a big pile that you need to recover from.

And I remember thinking first, wow, like I can't believe we thought that we're really rich on paper. And then now a company's going bankrupt. We have to buy it back. And then once we understood what was going on, we're out of the shock, right? You hear news like this and you're just in shock. It's basically, what do we have to do to win? So what do we have to do to buy it back?

And I remember thinking first, wow, like I can't believe we thought that we're really rich on paper. And then now a company's going bankrupt. We have to buy it back. And then once we understood what was going on, we're out of the shock, right? You hear news like this and you're just in shock. It's basically, what do we have to do to win? So what do we have to do to buy it back?

And I remember thinking first, wow, like I can't believe we thought that we're really rich on paper. And then now a company's going bankrupt. We have to buy it back. And then once we understood what was going on, we're out of the shock, right? You hear news like this and you're just in shock. It's basically, what do we have to do to win? So what do we have to do to buy it back?

And in that case, we needed to raise money. So we hit the road with our third co-founder. We didn't even have a bank account. We had very little money personally. We went to the Bay Area. All three of us slept in the same hotel room. I don't know if our co-founder, Mike Casper, had that in mind when we decided to start the company together.

And in that case, we needed to raise money. So we hit the road with our third co-founder. We didn't even have a bank account. We had very little money personally. We went to the Bay Area. All three of us slept in the same hotel room. I don't know if our co-founder, Mike Casper, had that in mind when we decided to start the company together.

And in that case, we needed to raise money. So we hit the road with our third co-founder. We didn't even have a bank account. We had very little money personally. We went to the Bay Area. All three of us slept in the same hotel room. I don't know if our co-founder, Mike Casper, had that in mind when we decided to start the company together.

And then we went to New York and did the same thing on aunt booze couch and her pull out Murphy bed that came out of the wall of this 800 square foot apartment with the two of us in one bed and Mike Casper on the couch. And what we had done is we were transparent with our employees the whole time. We didn't hide this, right? As soon as we got the news, we got everyone together.

And then we went to New York and did the same thing on aunt booze couch and her pull out Murphy bed that came out of the wall of this 800 square foot apartment with the two of us in one bed and Mike Casper on the couch. And what we had done is we were transparent with our employees the whole time. We didn't hide this, right? As soon as we got the news, we got everyone together.