Nicole Boyce

Yes. Yes.

Yeah, I mean, you talked about how the Democrats need to have principles. And at the end of the conversation, she mentioned how maybe their policy positions haven't been bold enough. You know, I don't know if the Democrats should have drawn a line for the public option when they were fighting for the ACA back in 2010.

But I do know that many of them seem to still be resting on the laurels of that achievement. And even though the ACA doesn't seem to be working for a lot of people, and they can't even seem to unify behind the ideal of universal health care as a goal, even if they don't think they can achieve it.

Nobody can do it.

Yeah. It's the Spider-Man meme of just people pointing to each other.

I just feel bad that John was watching the Super Bowl and thinking, you know, this reminds me a lot of what's happening in the party right now. He will never be free.

He could at least be the one to get rid of daylight savings. Give me five minutes on the phone with him. I feel like I can make this happen.

Mm-hmm.

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