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Both suspects died as well. Since then, law enforcement has identified the two suspects as retired and active duty service members in the Army, respectively, and are investigating the motives for both attacks. Tom and Lauren, welcome to the podcast.

I have a lot of questions about this investigation and about the military during the new Trump administration, the upcoming Trump administration. But I want to go back to January 6, 2021. I think most of us watched the attack on the Capitol live on TV. I was in the dentist and started seeing reports that the barriers were being broken.

I have a lot of questions about this investigation and about the military during the new Trump administration, the upcoming Trump administration. But I want to go back to January 6, 2021. I think most of us watched the attack on the Capitol live on TV. I was in the dentist and started seeing reports that the barriers were being broken.

I have a lot of questions about this investigation and about the military during the new Trump administration, the upcoming Trump administration. But I want to go back to January 6, 2021. I think most of us watched the attack on the Capitol live on TV. I was in the dentist and started seeing reports that the barriers were being broken.

And then after I got out of the dentist appointment, I realized, oh, shoot, like, this is of another level. But you were both there. Like, you were on the grounds.

And then after I got out of the dentist appointment, I realized, oh, shoot, like, this is of another level. But you were both there. Like, you were on the grounds.

And then after I got out of the dentist appointment, I realized, oh, shoot, like, this is of another level. But you were both there. Like, you were on the grounds.

Wow. I mean, hearing that tape about hanging them from gallows, I think some of that seems to be kind of like memory wiped, like the violent rhetoric at that time. But then also that some of these... People had military ties. Tom, you've covered the military for decades. You've been embedded with troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Wow. I mean, hearing that tape about hanging them from gallows, I think some of that seems to be kind of like memory wiped, like the violent rhetoric at that time. But then also that some of these... People had military ties. Tom, you've covered the military for decades. You've been embedded with troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Wow. I mean, hearing that tape about hanging them from gallows, I think some of that seems to be kind of like memory wiped, like the violent rhetoric at that time. But then also that some of these... People had military ties. Tom, you've covered the military for decades. You've been embedded with troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Was it surprising to you to learn that some of these people like attacking the Capitol were actually people in the military who are supposed to be protecting the U.S. ?

Was it surprising to you to learn that some of these people like attacking the Capitol were actually people in the military who are supposed to be protecting the U.S. ?

Was it surprising to you to learn that some of these people like attacking the Capitol were actually people in the military who are supposed to be protecting the U.S. ?

So some of these people were veterans, right? But were there any active duty military members there on January 6th?

So some of these people were veterans, right? But were there any active duty military members there on January 6th?

So some of these people were veterans, right? But were there any active duty military members there on January 6th?

Do we know why they were so represented or overrepresented on January 6th?

Do we know why they were so represented or overrepresented on January 6th?

Do we know why they were so represented or overrepresented on January 6th?

So you mentioned you talked to that researcher. What did he think about all this?