Patrick McGee

And I love him dearly.

Well, how does he help during a play, during rehearsal?

He helps by making things simpler, by clarifying things.

Things which look enormously difficult, he can clarify, simplify, make clearer.

That's how he helps.

I cannot identify two clearly particular goings to the theatre with Sam, except one, where he and I, I'm sure he was with me, but certainly he made this comment on this particular play.

We went to a play called Autumn Fire.

which was by T.C.

Murray.

It was a very good play of its kind and, of course, it was brilliantly acted.

And one of the famous Abbey actors, Michael Dolan, carried the part of a middle-aged farmer who was full of strength and virility and who had a young wife.

And then he met with an accident and his virility disappeared

disappeared and tragedy overtook his family as a result of his ageing rapidly.

And I remember Sam remarking at that time, seeing Michael Dolan acting, about how much his hands came into expressing his feelings when, as a man who was maimed and stricken, he had all these tragic occurrences falling upon him.

My pleasure.

I think his legacy is undefined, to be clear.

So if you use the metrics that Wall Street uses, then clearly this guy's a rock star.

He added three and a half trillion dollars to Apple's value since he became CEO.

I mean, that's a remarkable achievement.

And even if people say, oh, he wasn't much of a product innovator or whatever.