Paul Hawken
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It came from good science. There's no question that when you increase triatomic particles in atmosphere, you know, molecules and water, it's one of them, by the way, CO2 is another one, that they reflect back infrared rays. And the infrared comes from the sun, heats the planet, heats the atmosphere.
You increase the number of CO2 molecules in the air, and a certain amount of heat is reflected back. And as you have more molecules, there's more heat. And that's global warming 101. We've known that since 1856. So the rhetoric and the concern is, well, let's stop putting them up there.
You increase the number of CO2 molecules in the air, and a certain amount of heat is reflected back. And as you have more molecules, there's more heat. And that's global warming 101. We've known that since 1856. So the rhetoric and the concern is, well, let's stop putting them up there.
You increase the number of CO2 molecules in the air, and a certain amount of heat is reflected back. And as you have more molecules, there's more heat. And that's global warming 101. We've known that since 1856. So the rhetoric and the concern is, well, let's stop putting them up there.
And that's what Project Drawdown was about, which I created in 2013, which is, can we just bring it back home, please, and stop putting it up there and get some sort of equilibrium that we had at one time in terms of the climate, the atmosphere, heating, warming, et cetera. And so it makes sense.
And that's what Project Drawdown was about, which I created in 2013, which is, can we just bring it back home, please, and stop putting it up there and get some sort of equilibrium that we had at one time in terms of the climate, the atmosphere, heating, warming, et cetera. And so it makes sense.
And that's what Project Drawdown was about, which I created in 2013, which is, can we just bring it back home, please, and stop putting it up there and get some sort of equilibrium that we had at one time in terms of the climate, the atmosphere, heating, warming, et cetera. And so it makes sense.
I'm not decrying what we did at Project Write-On or that logic, but in the process of doing that, we separated ourselves from cause. We're looking at cure, but we have to go upstream to cause. What's the cause? Why are we putting it up there? And why are we putting it up there in massive ways with a rhetoric and a story? And I say the story now is the climate narrative that is completely BS.
I'm not decrying what we did at Project Write-On or that logic, but in the process of doing that, we separated ourselves from cause. We're looking at cure, but we have to go upstream to cause. What's the cause? Why are we putting it up there? And why are we putting it up there in massive ways with a rhetoric and a story? And I say the story now is the climate narrative that is completely BS.
I'm not decrying what we did at Project Write-On or that logic, but in the process of doing that, we separated ourselves from cause. We're looking at cure, but we have to go upstream to cause. What's the cause? Why are we putting it up there? And why are we putting it up there in massive ways with a rhetoric and a story? And I say the story now is the climate narrative that is completely BS.
And part of that BS is that we're in an energy transition. And if we get to net zero by 2050, we're going to be good to go, you know? And that's just not true. We're not in an energy transition whatsoever. we're actually using more coal, gas, oil and wood than we did last century and the century before that and the century before that.
And part of that BS is that we're in an energy transition. And if we get to net zero by 2050, we're going to be good to go, you know? And that's just not true. We're not in an energy transition whatsoever. we're actually using more coal, gas, oil and wood than we did last century and the century before that and the century before that.
And part of that BS is that we're in an energy transition. And if we get to net zero by 2050, we're going to be good to go, you know? And that's just not true. We're not in an energy transition whatsoever. we're actually using more coal, gas, oil and wood than we did last century and the century before that and the century before that.
And so what I wanted to do is get to step back and look at it as a whole, not to be solutionist and not to say, look at, listen up, I know the way, you know. No, but to actually provide people another way of seeing the world, which is what they're in. So that's about being in a world.
And so what I wanted to do is get to step back and look at it as a whole, not to be solutionist and not to say, look at, listen up, I know the way, you know. No, but to actually provide people another way of seeing the world, which is what they're in. So that's about being in a world.
And so what I wanted to do is get to step back and look at it as a whole, not to be solutionist and not to say, look at, listen up, I know the way, you know. No, but to actually provide people another way of seeing the world, which is what they're in. So that's about being in a world.
and to see it in a way that gives them a much more expansive, inclusive, and to me, a more compassionate way of understanding how we got here, where we are, and where to go forward from that point, but not in the sense that, you know, like, I know you don't. I'm not interested in that.
and to see it in a way that gives them a much more expansive, inclusive, and to me, a more compassionate way of understanding how we got here, where we are, and where to go forward from that point, but not in the sense that, you know, like, I know you don't. I'm not interested in that.
and to see it in a way that gives them a much more expansive, inclusive, and to me, a more compassionate way of understanding how we got here, where we are, and where to go forward from that point, but not in the sense that, you know, like, I know you don't. I'm not interested in that.
Well, the secrets are in the 3.4 trillion creatures that we share this planet with. And then in the uncountable number of plants that we also share this planet with. And I often say to people, not in an arrogant way, I hope, that we don't know where we live. We don't know where we live. We literally don't know the earth. And, but furthermore, we don't know who we live with.