Paul Hawken

I can say this emphatically. The only way forward for humankind is to create more life on Earth. There is no other way. I don't care what Bill Gates says or what some oil company says or this or that and so forth. There is no other way. Does part of that include also human life?

Like, do we look at the growth of a tree and say that's bad? No, but let's parse this a little bit. Growth of what? Growth of what? Of course, there's all the nuances. So you don't want to just praise the verb or the noun, growth.

Like, do we look at the growth of a tree and say that's bad? No, but let's parse this a little bit. Growth of what? Growth of what? Of course, there's all the nuances. So you don't want to just praise the verb or the noun, growth.

Like, do we look at the growth of a tree and say that's bad? No, but let's parse this a little bit. Growth of what? Growth of what? Of course, there's all the nuances. So you don't want to just praise the verb or the noun, growth.

Yeah. I agree. I agree. Going after people is not really a winning combination of, you know, a winning argument because they already feel like a victim. Most people on earth, frankly, today feel like a victim. They are coping.

Yeah. I agree. I agree. Going after people is not really a winning combination of, you know, a winning argument because they already feel like a victim. Most people on earth, frankly, today feel like a victim. They are coping.

Yeah. I agree. I agree. Going after people is not really a winning combination of, you know, a winning argument because they already feel like a victim. Most people on earth, frankly, today feel like a victim. They are coping.

And we may be not realizing that in our privileged existence here in California or parts of California, but really go out there, talk, interview, see people are very threatened by the world as it is today. And they're coping and doing the best they can. And again, that's why this isn't an anti-human thing. It's a pro-human thing.

And we may be not realizing that in our privileged existence here in California or parts of California, but really go out there, talk, interview, see people are very threatened by the world as it is today. And they're coping and doing the best they can. And again, that's why this isn't an anti-human thing. It's a pro-human thing.

And we may be not realizing that in our privileged existence here in California or parts of California, but really go out there, talk, interview, see people are very threatened by the world as it is today. And they're coping and doing the best they can. And again, that's why this isn't an anti-human thing. It's a pro-human thing.

It's like these people, these mothers, these children, these fathers, are good people they need to be have the capacity to take care of themselves not to be taken care of that's patronizing but and and so that when we're talking about creating more life the tools the things the materials for their home and so forth there's a company called Invent wood. And it's in Maryland.

It's like these people, these mothers, these children, these fathers, are good people they need to be have the capacity to take care of themselves not to be taken care of that's patronizing but and and so that when we're talking about creating more life the tools the things the materials for their home and so forth there's a company called Invent wood. And it's in Maryland.

It's like these people, these mothers, these children, these fathers, are good people they need to be have the capacity to take care of themselves not to be taken care of that's patronizing but and and so that when we're talking about creating more life the tools the things the materials for their home and so forth there's a company called Invent wood. And it's in Maryland.

And I think I wrote about it a little bit in the book. But, you know, Chinese inventor. And basically it can take bamboo, but obviously any form of wood, and make a substance that is lighter than steel, one-sixth the weight, you know, and 50% stronger, one-half the cost, and replace all steel. And so that's like, whoa, no steel. Because steel you can't make without coal.

And I think I wrote about it a little bit in the book. But, you know, Chinese inventor. And basically it can take bamboo, but obviously any form of wood, and make a substance that is lighter than steel, one-sixth the weight, you know, and 50% stronger, one-half the cost, and replace all steel. And so that's like, whoa, no steel. Because steel you can't make without coal.

And I think I wrote about it a little bit in the book. But, you know, Chinese inventor. And basically it can take bamboo, but obviously any form of wood, and make a substance that is lighter than steel, one-sixth the weight, you know, and 50% stronger, one-half the cost, and replace all steel. And so that's like, whoa, no steel. Because steel you can't make without coal.

So you eliminate coal right there. And you treat the forest very, very differently. You don't need much wood or bamboo to make it. And that's 8% to 9% of carbon emissions are from steel manufacturing. So that's just, there are techniques and technologies being invented now, which are just extraordinary by really amazing human beings. We don't hear about them so much.

So you eliminate coal right there. And you treat the forest very, very differently. You don't need much wood or bamboo to make it. And that's 8% to 9% of carbon emissions are from steel manufacturing. So that's just, there are techniques and technologies being invented now, which are just extraordinary by really amazing human beings. We don't hear about them so much.

So you eliminate coal right there. And you treat the forest very, very differently. You don't need much wood or bamboo to make it. And that's 8% to 9% of carbon emissions are from steel manufacturing. So that's just, there are techniques and technologies being invented now, which are just extraordinary by really amazing human beings. We don't hear about them so much.

And maybe in my next book, I think I will talk about them. To give people a sense of the genius of humanity as opposed to its venality.