Paul Hawken

And so you're dealing with the NIH, you're dealing with the USDA, you're dealing with the FDA, you're dealing with the agencies that have been bought and captured a long time ago by big ag, by big pharma. And so we have a system that is basically corporate. It's a corporate government in those areas, in those particular areas.

And instead of having, whether it's agency or whatever it is, but a polity that says, can we just go out to cause? You know, there's a parable of the river. It's been around for a thousand years and it shows up in different ways, but it's about people being by a river and they're eating or whatever they're doing. And then they see somebody going down the river, you know, who's like,

And instead of having, whether it's agency or whatever it is, but a polity that says, can we just go out to cause? You know, there's a parable of the river. It's been around for a thousand years and it shows up in different ways, but it's about people being by a river and they're eating or whatever they're doing. And then they see somebody going down the river, you know, who's like,

And instead of having, whether it's agency or whatever it is, but a polity that says, can we just go out to cause? You know, there's a parable of the river. It's been around for a thousand years and it shows up in different ways, but it's about people being by a river and they're eating or whatever they're doing. And then they see somebody going down the river, you know, who's like,

Can't swim, obviously, but being carried away by the flow of the river. And they go, jump in, you know, pull the person out. They go, whew, wow, you know. Then there's another one. You go, I can do it again. Then there's another one. And somebody says, I think we should go up a river and find out who's throwing them in. Because we'll never fix it here. Who's throwing them in? Yeah, yeah.

Can't swim, obviously, but being carried away by the flow of the river. And they go, jump in, you know, pull the person out. They go, whew, wow, you know. Then there's another one. You go, I can do it again. Then there's another one. And somebody says, I think we should go up a river and find out who's throwing them in. Because we'll never fix it here. Who's throwing them in? Yeah, yeah.

Can't swim, obviously, but being carried away by the flow of the river. And they go, jump in, you know, pull the person out. They go, whew, wow, you know. Then there's another one. You go, I can do it again. Then there's another one. And somebody says, I think we should go up a river and find out who's throwing them in. Because we'll never fix it here. Who's throwing them in? Yeah, yeah.

And the point is, so we aren't going upstream in this culture. We're going downstream. Go watch CNN. You see ads for diseases I've never heard of, and I'm fairly literate. I've never heard of these 13,000 diseases. But I mean, and medicines. Well, that must mean there's a lot of people watching CNN that must have that disease or they wouldn't advertise on CNN. They're not doing it for...

And the point is, so we aren't going upstream in this culture. We're going downstream. Go watch CNN. You see ads for diseases I've never heard of, and I'm fairly literate. I've never heard of these 13,000 diseases. But I mean, and medicines. Well, that must mean there's a lot of people watching CNN that must have that disease or they wouldn't advertise on CNN. They're not doing it for...

And the point is, so we aren't going upstream in this culture. We're going downstream. Go watch CNN. You see ads for diseases I've never heard of, and I'm fairly literate. I've never heard of these 13,000 diseases. But I mean, and medicines. Well, that must mean there's a lot of people watching CNN that must have that disease or they wouldn't advertise on CNN. They're not doing it for...

vanity reasons and so forth so i mean we're not going to cause you know we're going to cure but cure actually is symptomatic you know it's not cure it's not creating health this whole your whole problem is about health it's not about you know and and and understanding you know the the But the extraordinary, again, we can talk about complexity, the complexity of the human body.

vanity reasons and so forth so i mean we're not going to cause you know we're going to cure but cure actually is symptomatic you know it's not cure it's not creating health this whole your whole problem is about health it's not about you know and and and understanding you know the the But the extraordinary, again, we can talk about complexity, the complexity of the human body.

vanity reasons and so forth so i mean we're not going to cause you know we're going to cure but cure actually is symptomatic you know it's not cure it's not creating health this whole your whole problem is about health it's not about you know and and and understanding you know the the But the extraordinary, again, we can talk about complexity, the complexity of the human body.

I mean, it's just this wondrous mystery. And we have a system of governance. So if people voted for Trump because they thought Bobby Kennedy, who I've known for a long time, was going to save the day, he's not going to save the day because the Senate is controlled by ag and pharmacy.

I mean, it's just this wondrous mystery. And we have a system of governance. So if people voted for Trump because they thought Bobby Kennedy, who I've known for a long time, was going to save the day, he's not going to save the day because the Senate is controlled by ag and pharmacy.

I mean, it's just this wondrous mystery. And we have a system of governance. So if people voted for Trump because they thought Bobby Kennedy, who I've known for a long time, was going to save the day, he's not going to save the day because the Senate is controlled by ag and pharmacy.

And it's never going to get through Congress in any shape, manner, or form because it is anti everything that Bobby Kennedy stands for and has spoken to. It doesn't matter whether Trump likes him or not. And so... But either way...

And it's never going to get through Congress in any shape, manner, or form because it is anti everything that Bobby Kennedy stands for and has spoken to. It doesn't matter whether Trump likes him or not. And so... But either way...

And it's never going to get through Congress in any shape, manner, or form because it is anti everything that Bobby Kennedy stands for and has spoken to. It doesn't matter whether Trump likes him or not. And so... But either way...

regardless of who you voted for why or this or who spoke to people's needs and who didn't the fact is that unless we're going upstream to cause and the cause is what is in our food you know the poor quality of our food how we engineer our food how we advertise yeah i mean it's just abhorrent