Phil Houston

Just instinctively, people shut up when they hear their name. It's a three-step process. You say, John, hang on. It's a control phrase. John, hang on for a minute, okay? And then I want to hear your side of it. And you've got your hand up is the third. So John, the control phrase and the hand up. And it's not in your face. It's almost like a defensive gesture.

Just instinctively, people shut up when they hear their name. It's a three-step process. You say, John, hang on. It's a control phrase. John, hang on for a minute, okay? And then I want to hear your side of it. And you've got your hand up is the third. So John, the control phrase and the hand up. And it's not in your face. It's almost like a defensive gesture.

Yes. Stop the denials at all costs, no matter what happens throughout the whole thing. Just keep saying, John, let's talk about the truth. It's not easy. I mean, if it were easy, we'd have a ton more confessions than we have. Mm-hmm. But people do break, and they break at moments for reasons we don't understand sometimes. This could be it.

Yes. Stop the denials at all costs, no matter what happens throughout the whole thing. Just keep saying, John, let's talk about the truth. It's not easy. I mean, if it were easy, we'd have a ton more confessions than we have. Mm-hmm. But people do break, and they break at moments for reasons we don't understand sometimes. This could be it.

Yes. Stop the denials at all costs, no matter what happens throughout the whole thing. Just keep saying, John, let's talk about the truth. It's not easy. I mean, if it were easy, we'd have a ton more confessions than we have. Mm-hmm. But people do break, and they break at moments for reasons we don't understand sometimes. This could be it.

Bill, I'm going to do something I've never- I'm happily wrong.

Bill, I'm going to do something I've never- I'm happily wrong.

Bill, I'm going to do something I've never- I'm happily wrong.

You're absolutely wrong. We do this all the time.

You're absolutely wrong. We do this all the time.

You're absolutely wrong. We do this all the time.

I am not anticipating a full confession by any stretch. But if you got, for example, an acknowledgement that he had those phones and he did something with them and so forth, that's tantamount to a confession.

I am not anticipating a full confession by any stretch. But if you got, for example, an acknowledgement that he had those phones and he did something with them and so forth, that's tantamount to a confession.

I am not anticipating a full confession by any stretch. But if you got, for example, an acknowledgement that he had those phones and he did something with them and so forth, that's tantamount to a confession.

Bill, I talk to terrorists who are far, far more conditioned not to give up information, and they talk. They talk if you approach them in the right manner.

Bill, I talk to terrorists who are far, far more conditioned not to give up information, and they talk. They talk if you approach them in the right manner.

Bill, I talk to terrorists who are far, far more conditioned not to give up information, and they talk. They talk if you approach them in the right manner.

Okay. You could say, John, look, this is not about lawyers. We're not here to bring harm to anybody, including yourself. We just want the truth. And you have a very critical piece of information that will help this get resolved.

Okay. You could say, John, look, this is not about lawyers. We're not here to bring harm to anybody, including yourself. We just want the truth. And you have a very critical piece of information that will help this get resolved.

Okay. You could say, John, look, this is not about lawyers. We're not here to bring harm to anybody, including yourself. We just want the truth. And you have a very critical piece of information that will help this get resolved.