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Professor Lloyd Llewellyn-Jones

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The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

It's different from that island hopping campaign. I mean, he decides to take this army over land instead of shipping it amphibiously. He also has a massive fleet, but they decide to move along the coast while the fleet sort of shadows them. But this isn't necessarily a new idea.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

It's different from that island hopping campaign. I mean, he decides to take this army over land instead of shipping it amphibiously. He also has a massive fleet, but they decide to move along the coast while the fleet sort of shadows them. But this isn't necessarily a new idea.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

It's different from that island hopping campaign. I mean, he decides to take this army over land instead of shipping it amphibiously. He also has a massive fleet, but they decide to move along the coast while the fleet sort of shadows them. But this isn't necessarily a new idea.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

I mean, crossing the Hellespont and moving the army over land is also what Darius did when he invaded a few decades before then, invaded Thrace and then moved north. So he moved into Scythia. Xerxes now is going to move west. Sorry, my apologies. What is the Hellespont? Is that kind of Gallipoli, Dardanelles area? Exactly, yeah.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

I mean, crossing the Hellespont and moving the army over land is also what Darius did when he invaded a few decades before then, invaded Thrace and then moved north. So he moved into Scythia. Xerxes now is going to move west. Sorry, my apologies. What is the Hellespont? Is that kind of Gallipoli, Dardanelles area? Exactly, yeah.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

I mean, crossing the Hellespont and moving the army over land is also what Darius did when he invaded a few decades before then, invaded Thrace and then moved north. So he moved into Scythia. Xerxes now is going to move west. Sorry, my apologies. What is the Hellespont? Is that kind of Gallipoli, Dardanelles area? Exactly, yeah.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

So the Hellespont is the narrow strip sort of at the south end of the sea of the Propontis, so the Sea of Marmors. So this is the bit where Gallipoli is now, so perhaps more notorious for that. But it's a strip of land where the Athenians have long had interest, but it's also the narrowest point where you can cross from Asia into Europe. And so it's about two kilometers across.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

So the Hellespont is the narrow strip sort of at the south end of the sea of the Propontis, so the Sea of Marmors. So this is the bit where Gallipoli is now, so perhaps more notorious for that. But it's a strip of land where the Athenians have long had interest, but it's also the narrowest point where you can cross from Asia into Europe. And so it's about two kilometers across.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

So the Hellespont is the narrow strip sort of at the south end of the sea of the Propontis, so the Sea of Marmors. So this is the bit where Gallipoli is now, so perhaps more notorious for that. But it's a strip of land where the Athenians have long had interest, but it's also the narrowest point where you can cross from Asia into Europe. And so it's about two kilometers across.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

Darius and now again Xerxes build a pontoon bridge across. So that's how they transport the army. And for Herodotus, I think this is very much one of those examples of Xerxes trying to prove that he can achieve things that no other human has achieved before. Like he's subjecting nature and geography to his will. He's saying, there's a sea here. No, there isn't. Now there's a bridge.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

Darius and now again Xerxes build a pontoon bridge across. So that's how they transport the army. And for Herodotus, I think this is very much one of those examples of Xerxes trying to prove that he can achieve things that no other human has achieved before. Like he's subjecting nature and geography to his will. He's saying, there's a sea here. No, there isn't. Now there's a bridge.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

Darius and now again Xerxes build a pontoon bridge across. So that's how they transport the army. And for Herodotus, I think this is very much one of those examples of Xerxes trying to prove that he can achieve things that no other human has achieved before. Like he's subjecting nature and geography to his will. He's saying, there's a sea here. No, there isn't. Now there's a bridge.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

I can walk here. I can walk wherever I want. And similarly later on, when they get to the peninsula at Athos, which is now Mount Athos where there were the monasteries on it, On a previous occasion, his cousin Mardonius had tried to lead an army there, but his fleet had suffered shipwreck around the Cape of Athos. And so this time Xerxes doesn't want his fleet to take the same route.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

I can walk here. I can walk wherever I want. And similarly later on, when they get to the peninsula at Athos, which is now Mount Athos where there were the monasteries on it, On a previous occasion, his cousin Mardonius had tried to lead an army there, but his fleet had suffered shipwreck around the Cape of Athos. And so this time Xerxes doesn't want his fleet to take the same route.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

I can walk here. I can walk wherever I want. And similarly later on, when they get to the peninsula at Athos, which is now Mount Athos where there were the monasteries on it, On a previous occasion, his cousin Mardonius had tried to lead an army there, but his fleet had suffered shipwreck around the Cape of Athos. And so this time Xerxes doesn't want his fleet to take the same route.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

So he decides to dig a canal through the route of this peninsula, which is quite narrow. So again, for Herodotus, this is a moment to prove firstly, I mean, obviously that the Persians are fantastic engineers, both for the pontoon bridge and for the canal, in which they rely on a lot of Phoenician advice. But fundamentally, they're doing amazing logistical things.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

So he decides to dig a canal through the route of this peninsula, which is quite narrow. So again, for Herodotus, this is a moment to prove firstly, I mean, obviously that the Persians are fantastic engineers, both for the pontoon bridge and for the canal, in which they rely on a lot of Phoenician advice. But fundamentally, they're doing amazing logistical things.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

So he decides to dig a canal through the route of this peninsula, which is quite narrow. So again, for Herodotus, this is a moment to prove firstly, I mean, obviously that the Persians are fantastic engineers, both for the pontoon bridge and for the canal, in which they rely on a lot of Phoenician advice. But fundamentally, they're doing amazing logistical things.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

but also because Xerxes at this point has turned sea into land and land into sea. So he is saying to geography, he's staring the world in the face and saying, I'm better than you, essentially, which is a sensibility that I think modern people, especially me as a Dutch person, I mean, it has something of this modern idea of technology overcoming nature that resonates with us.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

but also because Xerxes at this point has turned sea into land and land into sea. So he is saying to geography, he's staring the world in the face and saying, I'm better than you, essentially, which is a sensibility that I think modern people, especially me as a Dutch person, I mean, it has something of this modern idea of technology overcoming nature that resonates with us.