Propaganda
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first heard Jan 2025
last heard Apr 2025
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So, of course, like just the psychology of it is like, well, it's the one that come with it. So like, why would I go out of my way unless I'm a tech geek? Why would I go out of my way? It's just it come with it. We don't know enough about the Internet to have a preference about it. We don't know about incognito like that stuff don't exist no more or yet. So what difference does it make? All right.
Let's Internet Explorer. And it made sense to us because it was like or to the it made sense to the consumer because it's like was made from the same company that when I open the laptop, that's how it runs. They was like, yo, this is unjust. Like this ain't, they can do whatever they want there. And I remember, I remember the browser was trash. Like it wasn't, it wasn't that good of a browser.
Like it just like, what do you, I don't know what I can, I mean, and they had no incentive on making it better per se, because they done already sold the product completely. They done already made their money off, off windows and off office. So there's no like you've cornered the market. There's no there's there's no one can compete with you. So they brought that case to the Department of Justice.
Netscape did. So Netscape brings brings brings a case to the Department of Justice. They was like, just like I just explained, like, yo, this is a monopoly, dog. Like, there's nothing we can do about it. Like, I mean, what are we going to do? It's already on your laptop. I bet you you open your you get a new computer today. Bet you it's already there. Like, how do I compete with that?
Like, that's that's. not, what am I supposed to do? They bring in Microsoft to be like, okay, well, and this is like legendary. Like, so Bill Gates and him and Microsoft come in and Microsoft was just like, okay, that's funny. Wait, what? Wait, are y'all serious? Hold up. There's no way in the world you're serious right now. What is you, what you saying is absolutely ridiculous.
Let me get this straight. Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me get this straight. We made a product. We made smart business moves. We used our connections. We developed a new product. We took our own product. bundled it with our other own product, and used the connections that we took years to develop, and you saying that's a problem? What you mean? Like, what is the problem?
You can't possibly be, so we're smart? You're punishing me for being smart? What are you talking about? You're saying this is anti-capitalist? I don't understand. So should our product suck? Should we not try? You want us to not make money? What are you talking about? This is absurd.
Ain't nothing stopping you from finding a computer. You could approach them with the same contract we approached them with. Get your weight up. I don't understand. We approached these people. We approached these manufacturers. They could have said no. They said yes. What do you want me to do? You want me to tell the consumers don't buy our product? What are you talking about?
absolutely ridiculous, was Microsoft's argument. The problem was they just walked in super smug and super arrogant. And they were just like I'm saying, like, we smarter than everyone. It was our fault we're smarter than everybody else. Department of Justice ain't like that. They ain't like your little attitude. They asked him very, very direct questions like, yo, Do you remember this email?
They pulling up emails where them fools was talking. This is the first time that was like a part of like, because remember emails just now were born. Pulling up emails where they were like, knife the baby. Like talking about like really we're trying to kill Netscape. Like that's our goal. Like we're actually trying to get like just cutthroat, like Silicon Valley, like OG.
Like no, we're actually trying to kill it. They was like, yo, you remember this email? He was like, no. Like you don't remember the one you just replied to? He's like, no, I remember it.
he was just a jerk about it like they were like hey uh did you have any concern about any other companies he was like what i don't understand the question he was like what what don't you understand he's like what do you mean by concern i don't know what you mean by that and they were like do you know what concern means like i know what it means i don't know what you mean by that it's like sir deep okay um just this like smug i'm smarter than you i'm 10 steps ahead of you just
It just turned everybody out. But ultimately, their point was, okay, dude, you can't punish us because their product sucks. That can't possibly be our fault. We're good at business. This is what happened. Department of Justice was like, no, that's a monopoly. Y'all got to break this company up. Because the straw that broke the camel back was pairing Office and Windows with Explorer.
That's the part that did it. Because it's like you've made, now nobody has any other option. That's the same example I was given with Tesla. Because the point is, on general principle, consumers are supposed to have options. And the argument is, having options keeps everybody in check, right? Because... If you have options, that's going to force you to make the better product.
And if you baking a better product that make all of America look good, consumers are happy, money's flowing, right? That's the argument. And again, using the Tesla as an example, like I just say it right now, didn't I just say that? I'm sorry, I'm just talking. If every electric car in the future, if you want to do self-driving mode, you have to use this because it's the default setting.
And this gives Tesla no incentive to like they could charge every car company whatever they want, because who else you going to go to? Which means that that is going to raise the prices for all of our cars, which means it's going to rain the prices for chips and all this good stuff. It's just like there's no like this doesn't help nobody.
This just makes you by yourself rich and all of us got to suffer by it. So that's that's the theory. Nobody's happy with that except for y'all. And we just decided as a nation back in the 1700s that we wasn't going to be like that. In theory. Now, what they told them that they had to do was break the company up. You have to put Windows in one place as one company and Office as another company.
Is that how you understand Microsoft? Of course not, because that didn't happen. Essentially, what they did was just they paid the fines, they did what they had to do, and then they just promised to not be jerks. It just really, really ain't nothing happened. So ultimately, nothing changed. Netscape ended up selling to AOL.
Microsoft just had this ruling stand that they were operating as a monopoly. But since God is good and just... when last time you opened an Internet Explorer browser. Now, this is what the Department of Justice was considering when they looked at this Google case. Now let's talk about specifically the ruling. Now remember Google, the company's called Alphabet for whatever reason.
The ruling was that they illegally monopolized the search engine market. Now, and here's how they did it. Now, they did it the same way Microsoft did it in the sense that you just, if you're a software company, duh, make deals with hardware companies.
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