Rabbi Matt Goldberg

Yeah, yeah, I think it's a great question and I'll say it's a question that I... would love for us to talk more about, you know, in synagogue, for example, I can't speak much to other places of worship, but I would love for us to talk more about spirituality, both as a people and also our individual spirituality in the synagogue. And I don't think that they're exactly the same.

Yeah, yeah, I think it's a great question and I'll say it's a question that I... would love for us to talk more about, you know, in synagogue, for example, I can't speak much to other places of worship, but I would love for us to talk more about spirituality, both as a people and also our individual spirituality in the synagogue. And I don't think that they're exactly the same.

I think that they are deeply related. They're deeply connected. I wonder if perhaps, religion is the most common or perhaps easiest way to access spirituality. So I think a person can have a relationship with divinity on their own. I like the language of seeking. I can be a seeker asking big questions about the in-touchness or interconnectedness of the world.

I think that they are deeply related. They're deeply connected. I wonder if perhaps, religion is the most common or perhaps easiest way to access spirituality. So I think a person can have a relationship with divinity on their own. I like the language of seeking. I can be a seeker asking big questions about the in-touchness or interconnectedness of the world.

And that's kind of how I see spirituality. And someone can do that seeking on their own. And I think that religion helps with that, offering a framework and a safe community to ask those questions.

And that's kind of how I see spirituality. And someone can do that seeking on their own. And I think that religion helps with that, offering a framework and a safe community to ask those questions.

Yeah, absolutely. It's beautiful. And they can exist. I think that they help each other, spirituality and religion, but either one can exist. A person can be spiritual. I have congregants, community members, students who say they're spiritual, but not religious. And I think the other can exist as well. You know, we could do a whole

Yeah, absolutely. It's beautiful. And they can exist. I think that they help each other, spirituality and religion, but either one can exist. A person can be spiritual. I have congregants, community members, students who say they're spiritual, but not religious. And I think the other can exist as well. You know, we could do a whole

a different podcast perhaps on Judaism specifically and how there are cultural Jews or, you know, people who, you know, celebrate the holidays, but maybe don't do the prayer and don't do the theology or the divinity and the spirituality. So they can exist, you know, I digress a little bit. They can exist separately, but I think that each is bolstered and made even more meaningful with the other.

a different podcast perhaps on Judaism specifically and how there are cultural Jews or, you know, people who, you know, celebrate the holidays, but maybe don't do the prayer and don't do the theology or the divinity and the spirituality. So they can exist, you know, I digress a little bit. They can exist separately, but I think that each is bolstered and made even more meaningful with the other.

I like that. I think that's a really interesting idea. My understanding of or experience of spirituality is a lot more... based on connection to the world around me. And so it's, whereas my religious practice was largely learned about the holidays, about the liturgy, et cetera.

I like that. I think that's a really interesting idea. My understanding of or experience of spirituality is a lot more... based on connection to the world around me. And so it's, whereas my religious practice was largely learned about the holidays, about the liturgy, et cetera.

And so I hadn't thought much about that until you just said it, but I love that idea that there's almost like innate spirituality within us and That we can work to access and we can work to deepen and we can work to be able to express. But there's just opportunity or potential for spirituality just in the fact that we're alive.

And so I hadn't thought much about that until you just said it, but I love that idea that there's almost like innate spirituality within us and That we can work to access and we can work to deepen and we can work to be able to express. But there's just opportunity or potential for spirituality just in the fact that we're alive.

And I think that perhaps the best thing religion does is offer a space to talk about spirituality because it's one of the... um to experience you know whatever we're thinking of when we say spirituality but to be able to uh express it and um you know talk to someone else about it whether it's a rabbi or someone you know someone sitting next to you and

And I think that perhaps the best thing religion does is offer a space to talk about spirituality because it's one of the... um to experience you know whatever we're thinking of when we say spirituality but to be able to uh express it and um you know talk to someone else about it whether it's a rabbi or someone you know someone sitting next to you and

in synagogue or whatever place of worship, I think that the opportunity to practice expressing, oh, this was meaningful to me, oh, this didn't do anything for me, is how we can expand or grow our spiritual connection.

in synagogue or whatever place of worship, I think that the opportunity to practice expressing, oh, this was meaningful to me, oh, this didn't do anything for me, is how we can expand or grow our spiritual connection.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.