Rachael

That was her seventh flight.

We talk about it. We kind of talk. That's a big part of why the second book came. It's not like your 10 girlfriends are going through it at the same time.

And even if you have one or two, like you're not on the same day.

And you can look back and try to recall it. But like you are on an island going through pregnancy a lot of the times. Like if you really think about that, like you can ask people, hey, did you have this? And they're trying to backtrack. And we're writing a book about pregnancy. And she's like calling every friend because she's like, when we started, she wasn't pregnant.

So she actually wrote the book while pregnant, but when she wasn't, she's like, I don't remember week 13.

Yeah. I would say we're three months in with Rosie. We have the two and a half year old. You guys know how this goes. I think we are rediscovering ourselves, our love for each other, our new love for Rosie, right? Yeah.

You guys get it.

I love cooking.

So, yeah, we did a deep dive. And because of social media, a lot of experts reached out and we got in touch with a lot of great people. Me and you are swimming pools without a filter. If we don't work out, if we don't really treat it, it doesn't get filtered out. Your bodies, it's truly amazing, are never the same two days in a row. There's always a level rising, lowering, your egg moving.

You have four cycles of In between your period. So you menstruate, you go through your lateal, your follicular, your ovulation.

Yeah, like I can geek out on it. But the long and short is whether you're on a 28, 32, 34 day cycle from period end to period begin. Throughout that time, like you should be doing different things for your body. Cool.

because your body's asking for different things it's the reason why if you join orange theory and you do it every single day after six months like you might get you might be good at it but there's going to be a 10-day period in there where you're you're getting your ass kicked yeah because your body's kind of probably saying like maybe do yoga maybe yeah like still work out but like do that so we we got into that and your body's asking for certain foods so i started i

implementing those foods based off her cycle of what her body's asking and it's it's and we have thousands and thousands of people that reach out and it's always three months because three months is the time to flush out a lot of the hormones a lot of the the gut health problems etc so in three months she had like nine symptoms hormonal acne yeah i had like my i had really bad like hormonal acne when her period came it was go get the supers and put the towels down

Because the boys would just pass out.

And then we got pregnant. And then we got pregnant.

I wish somebody, we started like, what do we got to do with the newborn? And you start going through all this stuff, right? Unpacking, getting the pumps ready. Nobody warned me that your two-year-old might have a breakdown.

I will be the first to tell you that if I didn't meet this girl, I would work the corporate life until I was retired. I did not have an emotional bone in my body. I don't think I would cry for three years in a row. I met her, and she actually made me comfortable feeling the person I am. I probably cry as much as you, if not more these days. I want to travel and enjoy life. I actually take it in.

Sweet. so yeah there's there is there's a yin and a yang for sure that's so but she gave me like an actual life i want to live and not one that was told what i had to do if that makes sense wow right that's beautiful you guys are so perfect that's so beautiful i'm inspired she did man i just wanted to work and get retired and do the corporate thing and that would have sucked

I don't even know how I could rank it. I always just wanted... We cook for the college meals. We do this. I've always had the helping bone in my body. I think that's being the oldest of 17 little cousins and big families. But I also like... My grandpa was a plumber. My dad went to the Marines to get his college, and they didn't pay for it, and he worked through it. And like...

There's just a lot of motivation that always made me want to be corporate to probably be able to afford to do the dreams I had. And that's the path I was told you had to do it. And now we learned a different path. And I think we're doing our best to do good things.

Oh, listen. I barely had Instagram. It was just to like her stuff. So she was a flight attendant. She would blog, and she's always had a creative writing style.

Well, this is also, we found out the PCOS.

And I know we're going to have to document it. I don't love being analytical, but I am very historical driven. Let me look back at what we did and what worked and didn't. I'm like, I need to write all this shit down somewhere. And I need pictures of the food and when we did it and when her cycle was and what phase we're going for. what the LH level or what we're trying to affect.

And I had like Pinterest boards. I had Safari saved. I have notes. I have like handwritten notes. And in my head, I was like, Instagram, I can literally take the picture and be like, this is for the Luteal phase for these reasons. Here's the recipe. And that, that was it.

All I could think about was if she knows about this, she's going to pull out her camera and take a picture of the food. And I'm going to have to wait until it's edited. And now I'm making three meals a day. Oh, my gosh. And I'm going to be annoyed with her.

I was like, there are millions of people on this. She's not going to find it. I have like 12 followers. And they're like the food pages that follow you back.

You're like reading every book. You're asking for all the advice. When number two came, we're like, we do know what.

So we did a year of like... Like 13 or 14 months after, right? Yeah. Like 13, 14... So three months, her body gets on that 28-day cycle and we track that for... And I think at month 13... It was like a year. At month 13, we really started trying.

Because now we knew like the day she would get pregnant. So we avoided those days. Yeah.

Truly understanding it.

Things she wanted to do in the day, when she wanted to go to bed, if she wanted to get out, if she wanted to stay in bed and play, she was getting it.

I got to know. I got to know. I'll send you a print. Do you have a picture with you? Do you have a print with you?

So Sutton, obviously, finding out we were pregnant was an emotional roller coaster. We both, and I'm sure you guys do too, we have a lot of people we know that didn't get to the end of the pregnancy. Miscarriages happen in silence all the time, and that was always PCOS that heightens it. And going into that pregnancy, we said we are not taking a single week of this for granted.

We don't want to get through it. Yeah, we want to enjoy it. We want to embrace this whole thing. Yeah.

And then we brought home a baby.

Being an intentional... Because you guys know how it is. It's like you find out you're pregnant, there's like doctor's appointments. Yeah. Non-stop.

And then it kicks back up. Yeah. And then there's the fear, the anxiety. Is everything ready? Are the rooms ready? Do we got to paint? Do we got to whatever? And I think like reflecting on that, that was just... That helped us so much to like... And to us, what's a great way to get to know somebody? What's a great way to stop? What's a great way to reflect? Like around a table, around food.

So for us, that was just our way to make sure we clocked back in with each other. And when we bickered about a paint color or what crib, like, hey, we're just going to eat now. And enjoy this.

It put me in a truly mental tough spot. Because I was like, my little girl, you're feeling it. And you don't know why. And you're trying to process a lot of emotions. And there was a good two months there where it really destroyed me.

That was too professional. Wait, wait. We are sprinting and tapping the button. Because I didn't have like a little flicker or anything.

I mean, there's cantaloupes. There's plants. There's a lot. There's a lot of fruits as you go.

I played college football like my teammates were like hey bro hey Tom so you're on Instagram huh

I would concur with that. Yeah. Yeah, I just got the, you know, it got put in all the guy group text.

I am the biggest of most of them, so.

Well, and you were taking care of baby.

Honestly, I think they know how much, like, me and Rachel have fun. Yeah. And I think they, like, my close friends know how much that's important for me. I don't feel like there was ever, like, teasing, as weird as that sounds.

I don't have a lot of, like, guy, like, as much as, like, I lock a room in sports, like, we don't have a lot of the be tough, but, like, my friends are, like, love your wife friends. That's awesome. So, like, you know, I think it was fun. That's good. It was hard for me to press send on that.

I mean, I have like the same group of 10 friends since third grade.

Yeah. So his partner.

Why'd you get rid of the boat? I'm Lake Michigan. We had a boat.

So her oldest brother...

Me and him got real close. Okay. And before we got married, I always wanted a boat and he always wanted a boat. And we were like at a Christmas party or something. We're like, I'm talking to Pat, his, her brother. And he's like, Tom, let's just, let's just get the boat together. I was like, dude, I mean, he's like, no, do it before you guys get married in case anything happens. Oh,

Great. Didn't tell your wife. You're big water sports.

I played sports in the football, baseball, basketball, hockey. I don't like watching sports. It's just more fun to play. I will love coaching them. I love the analytics of them. I like picking them up. Me and Rachel have 35 hobbies. One week you'll catch us fishing.

I'll take her to go shoot around like basketball. And it turns into me grabbing all of her rebounds as she throws it from half court.

We do golf together.

And I don't love golf, so that's kind of funny.

We're at the driving range. Okay, do you guys do any sports together? Not really. If you consider tubing behind the boat, Abby loves tubing. Tubing is a sport. I love tubing. She's a queen. You're a workout. I like to work out.

Are you doing the barrel rolls in the tube? Are you getting whipped?

I saw when you guys did the workout class. I was going to chip all my teeth.

So anyway.

or a pickleball reggae any of the above no i feel i always say i feel like a giant trying to get a ping pong ball like i just feel so clumsy like since like with the two now do you guys have any like super intentional time i because i we both have discovered our time apart like my one-on-one time with me alone and yeah and her having her time is important yes oh yeah but like have you guys done

Like we... Because if you're not doing sports together, I know you do a lot. I know you do your workout classes. Yeah. Super admirable. Like you jumping in because it's part of her life. Yeah.

She has a baby on her boob every three hours, is changing out her pad.

So then you're just like, Tom, shut up. Like, what am I? But my heart's being torn for my daughter, my two-year-old.

that's awesome what are like typical do you do dinner a lot yeah we love dinner yeah we're foodies yeah we're like pick a spot that we like an appetizer and if we want to order the next thing we'll order otherwise we're walking somewhere else oh we grew up in like our our engagements and our dating we were living in chicago where it's like walk out the door pick a direction walk and you'll find 10 new spots wow so we're big we're foodies we travel to eat that's fun and who plans out the date nights

Somebody might have things going on, might be live music. We love live music.

I think you can't plan intentional time. Right. Like you can't plan. It's like right now we're going to have 10 minutes of heart to heart and get to know each other. Right. Yeah. One of my favorite quotes is, uh, if, uh, if you want 10 minutes quality time, spend three hours, right?

Nobody's going to want to hear this. At seven days, Sutton slept through the night every night of her life.

And with two, and as our families, hopefully, I believe you guys want your family to grow more or not. We definitely do. Yeah. The time is going to get tighter. Yeah. And what felt like a day, like what we could accomplish in a day, it feels like with two we can accomplish in like three days now. Right?

So that whole idea of three hours to get 10 minutes, if you're rushing your date night, if you're rushing to have a meal because you need the box checked.

you're not you're not going to get the intentional time bingo and that like to me like i think that's why our we are go with the flow where it's like tonight's date night like we'll order the damn pizza and eat in the car and if one of us is like you know what bowling sounds fun maybe we'll run and go bowling maybe we'll sit under the stars maybe we'll go to dorothea dick's park and like sit under the art show but like it's very much to just find that intentional time and

This is something like I think we're learning through. We're trying to figure out how to do it with with our children as well. And that's right now. Rosie's still breastfeeding. Right. Tied to mom. Sutton is starting to tie to me.

No, I want Dada. So we're very intentional. Sutton loves getting her nails done.

You want meaning in everything and that's awesome. You like to have meaning.

I was kicking off my, my mom grew up around there. The fact that you haven't brought her to the wineries, um, They have wineries there that will blow away Napa. I bet they're a lot cheaper too. In Carbondale? Heron specifically.

Blue Sky, Russell Hill, killer. Crazy.

What? You're friends with the Q&D coach? Yeah, Jack Cornell. We were teammates. What?

It's really more Missouri than it is Illinois.

You know, back when it's dating and fun where you drive for seven hours or six hours to have one night together.

and would be very not like I'm the owner just check on you and then we were small talking and he's like oh I actually I started this and yeah where's the name Sutton come from he's like oh it's my daughter's name and I had like never thought of his Italian place and he's like which is a terrible name for Italian place I guess I just got chills like when you guys said that this old man named his restaurant after his daughter yeah and I fell in love I was always like well like if we ever get married one day and you have a kid I feel like Sutton would just be like our story yeah

I mean, those little road trips got us through like well over a year of long distance dating and it was pretty typically there.

Yeah.

We thought she was going into labor at 37.

We were sitting watching a movie like this. So it was like 35. And she did one of these and held up her pants. And it was soaked. But Sutton was laying there earlier. We don't know.

This is number two. So, you know, my nose is in there. You're a little more chill. You're also a little more chill.

We were not at home. And we had to make a drive back. So they told us, like, monitor and drive back. On the drive, we're like... we don't have a name.

And not a starting point.

You asked that like right before we were with my sister at like a little vacation. So that the conversation was happening when we, as we thought this.

No, you're good. It just didn't do it for us.

Are you in the big bed yet?

lot of people know about my mom my father died four years ago in october so and and this is coming up on one year my mom so raising uh just death in general but like having kids and not having their grandparents or great-grandparents or there there is there is like a crazy emotional thing there because you're you guys picked it because i assumed there was great love

Right. And you want to honor that great love. And there is something in my mind that happens a lot thing about my mom and dad not knowing them is they taught me great love and they're not going to my kids aren't going to feel it. They're not going to get that from them.

No, I meant you personally.

But I know they'll get it from us.

And I know how important that they're my parents. Love is what made me me. And I is going to charge me to be a great father. So I think names when you do things like that and you have people that drive you to be better to as parents to to honor your kids. And one day talk like, hey. Let me tell you about your mental name. And that should give you butterflies because your kid's going to feel it.

No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.

You know what I mean? So I get why it holds you up.

If I knew about the tent, we would have done the tent.

Yeah. That's really special. It's the best motivation in the world, too. It's hard, but it is good.

I have an amazing father. True. I, my dad, my dad is, you know, he, some of his phrases like just popped in mind, like Tom, like you're going to meet people different than you and you got to love it. Cause if everyone was like you, this world would suck.

And he did global sales, so he embraced everybody. He would take an office shirt for anybody. I mean, there was nobody that wasn't his friend. And he was a reader and a thinker, and me and him, we clicked so well that every time we'd sit, it felt like our brain was in the first place.

in the same place you know that's awesome um i had a grandpa that worked his ass off he was an alcoholic and almost cost our family everything and when we started when the grandkids started coming got healthy and he was the best grandpa we'll ever know that's beautiful you know um i just had a lot yeah family and and and honestly sadly like starting sophomore year of college a lot of family that died

And when that starts to happen, you start to really stop thinking that life will last until you're 80. And you start embracing a lot more. And it sucks because there's a lot of people in my life I wish were still here. But a lot of stuff doesn't bug me. Right? Yeah. Little things do not get on my mind. Probably going to be a problem at some point with our kids.

I have a lot of mentors that are 50, 60, even 70. I am very intentional at saying I don't know a lot. And I would say intellectually I can stand up and I read and blah, blah, blah, but I don't know shit. And I think the more you say I don't know a damn thing, what do you know? What have you learned in your life? Shut up and listen. You know what I mean? And

It could be taking it and saying, I appreciate that, but I'm going to question that one. Yeah. Right. Like trust, but verify. Yeah. I have good mentors. I really always have. That's a big one for me. And even like I look back, sophomore year of high school is when people, my three-year-old cousin got hit by a drunk driver on Christmas Eve. That's what we woke up to.

Um, and it destroyed my family systematically, people dying and taking their lives from then forward. Gene Nolan, Larry Tucker, Pat Hennessy were people at my high school that were older and wrapped their arms around me and said, Tom, like we're here. And I let them, I listened like they got me through that period, you know? Um,

So, like, I wish I could tell you more, but, like, I trust a lot of people in my life. And I take my rails down and I shut my mouth and I listen when I need to. And I would tell anybody just listen. Like, find good people and listen. And get rid of, like, we're parents now.

Like, the ones that drag you down, the energy suckers, the ones who make you question your marriage, question your parenthood, like, seal your walls. Yeah.

Ashley was my three-year-old cousin, yeah.

That was my basketball coach, the principal of the school, and the counselor. I went to a private school because of sports. I drove 60 minutes away to get to the school that academically and athletically would put me where I wanted to get, which was getting into the pros, football or basketball. Um, and that school was great academically and it was great athletically.

Oh, yeah. I'm scared. Obviously, there's a million different techniques. We're big on she slept anywhere we brought her. Yeah. In any position. Yeah.

So they were people I chose to go to that school because they were there. So when they saw that it was breaking me, like they knew, you know what I mean? Like drinking came out of nowhere, like playing with, like experimenting with people that do drugs and hanging out with them. Cause it's like, you know, they saw it.

No, I wanted to figure out why this happened and how to hide it. And it's my first time dealing with pain.

Just there.

That was his. Gene Nolan just sat me down all the time. He knew my family personally. He was like, how's your parents doing? How's Uncle Mike doing? Have you seen Bridget and the kids? He knew my family. So he just embraced me like you would do for someone you love.

But now we're paying for some of it. So yeah, it's everything. I think that is the thing of parenting. It's like, can you be respectful for what they do? Yeah. Can you look at what you do? Can we like get better at it? I think that's one of like the beauties of the internet. Like people talk trash social media and some of the things that bring it.

I'll do whatever you ask. Yeah. I was always, I had the, I was the oldest of a lot of little cousins who I love and our family was like this for that accident. I didn't like up till sophomore year of high school, my weekends were like going to one of the aunt's house. So all the aunts and uncles can go out to have dinner and I stay with all the kids. That's awesome. You know? So like, Yeah.

I, I, so that's how I grew. And that's how my dad was, you know, like he would. Yeah. Like we, we, and I'm trying to like be better cause it, it, it drove my dad into a depression and there's a lot of layers to that. Yeah. Including him losing his siblings and. But, like, I'm trying to be more cognizant of, like, I definitely can't take care of myself.

I have to take care of myself to take care of others. Right? Like, I can't always just say yes if I just get worn down and all of a sudden I'm at a wall. Right? And I can't go forward. So I'm still learning a lot of that. You're helping me, obviously. Yeah. Yeah.

I'll tell you some universal things here. If you know somebody that lost somebody, it doesn't matter if it was 10 years ago, five years ago, three years, three months. They need to be asked about it.

Yeah. I mean, my dad just hit four years. We get asked about my mom a lot. Like, and that's not a, it's just like, my dad feels like it was yesterday. I'm still processing my dad very much. Um, the holidays are coming. Like, if you know people that lost somebody and you know it's in them, like, just ask. Throw it out. You can't force it. You can't do it. You can't grill it, right?

Like, there's nothing worse than, like, a fake compliment, right? Like, somebody tells you they like your shoes and you're like, oh, man, it could pick you up. If they said it because it's superficial, you know the difference. Yeah. Right? Like, give an honest, like, hey, are you missing dad? Or have you thought about him?

I'm thinking. Like, a text. You get those.

oh my god a text like i'm thinking of uncle tom or i'm thinking your dad yeah we'll give that a lot thinking about christian about tommy today and it doesn't necessarily have to be like a question i think about them in a situation where they have to answer i think about it a dozen times a day every single day my dad and my mom so when somebody else says they are too it is like illuminating yeah it's not sad yeah it like you know because i'll tell you like oh my

I think one of the best things it does is like, I'm scared as shit and I can find people that are going through it.

One other thing, too, like, is somebody hearing the messages I get and think, like... Your crazy feelings and emotion, like other people have them. Like when you feel guilt or sad or upset or happy about weird shit.

Because of somebody like as after somebody like other people have them too. Like having my daughter like Rosie recently and me being like mom and dad don't get to meet you. And it like really my mom and dad don't get to meet you. Like really like messing me up that like. The highest joy, the lowest low, like meeting in the middle.

The amount of times I question, should I be allowed to feel like this? I think in parents in general, there's a lot of like, am I allowed to feel like this? So that's a big one.

Yeah. And if you have an open mind, like, I don't do it their way. Should I? Should I think about that?

I got nothing. I'll be honest. I've seen a lot of people, everyone handles it differently. Everyone takes it out. I've read a lot of books on it, right? I vividly remember one of them saying, your family member might take it all out on your family because you will take it out on the people that are closest to you because there is a subconscious that they will forgive you.

Which is a weird, weird thing. Cause they got angry. Like there were people angry, right? Like, um, and sometimes like it's easier to bring in the person and tell them all of your secrets and all of your pain. That's a stranger because you can kick them to the curb. Right. Like it's hard to do that with family. So I honestly, I have no clue. I've none. I have a lot of reflecting right now.

One of my biggest things is I've been given the advice like you're you're analyzing a lot. You know where your pain came from, you know. why your shortcomings are happening a little more often. I need you to start telling the story of your dad as much as you can. And I need you to start thinking about the future and tomorrow and what you're going to do rather than analyzing the past. Yeah.

So that's, that's like, and that was just in the last two weeks, three weeks. So that, that's kind of where my mind's at. I wish I could give you more. I wish I could tell somebody that's going through it. Like, Hey, do this. Cause I don't want you to have to live through pain. And I have no clue what that is.

You want to put your marriage on the line, go through it and you'll know if you get a good spot. I mean, having kids, you gotta know you have a good spouse. Even making the decision, I don't care when you make it, you gotta have a good spouse. You get it, even at two kids, man, you gotta be able to lean on each other.

I think she picks up accents because the Chicago people are like, where is that coming from?

I'm trying to think if my teacher... North Carolina is known for making names different to tell who's from there and where. Beaufort and Beaufort. Yeah. I don't know. That's getting into it. So I believe her. Sorry. I'm just trying to think back. And she went to school there. All right.

So 12 hours from home.

And I like literally like crept up into the picture. I was like, that's Kevin, right? She's like, yes.

I walked up and he's two weeks, three weeks into his freshman year of college at NC State, which where we live, it's like in our backyard. It's throughout our whole community, state is. And COVID had just closed the dorms and the cafeterias. So he's finding an apartment. And learning how to cook on his own, all the things. That just went back to, like, my college experience.

Like, without, like, the cafeteria freshman year, you got so many other things on your mind. And, you know, it's just a big transition. We had been, the Rachel Ray show, she gave us a year free of groceries so I could keep cooking for my wife. Sweet.

280 bucks a week i never spent more than 75 because i'm like it's just so much extra money for just so much it was from misfits we'll give them a little shout out because they were awesome oh i know we spent 75 bucks a week in college yeah so i would just add some extra stuff and i would text them hey we're and of course the first one i'm like showing off to them like we have surf and turf like literally grilled lobster and

He's like, I'll be over.

How was like one to two for you guys? Just even like personally, because everyone talks about like the, now you're still at least one on one. Like you're not outnumbered.

You would always come in with it washed, which I'm sure.

DM me if you have a college ID and you can get to Raleigh. I'll give you the address.

Because Kevin's first 10 times, we're always grabbing and go. Every now and then he would talk, but... college remember you're busier than ever like life is always a million miles an hour so it was very intentional of like you don't need to hang with us like just grab it and go hang if you need to sit on the couch football be on we always do them on sundays

So we're doing them every week. We'll keep cooking. So we just took Rachel Ray's groceries. And I was like, first one's getting meatballs. Like, I'll just order all the ground beef and all the ingredients. And everything's cooked to the same way Rachel asked to eat. So that's kind of like a deep seated meeting with the gluten free and everything. So I'm like, I'll just use Rachel Ray's.

Well, we get like, we do another one and there's like seven kids. Then there's 15. Then there's 40.

And now there's like hundreds signed up. Oh my gosh. So then I'm like, and.

Yeah.

By the way, like, I'm working a full-time job. Like, this isn't social media. Like, social media was how we got these students invited. And we always felt like because we were on Rachel Ray and Yahoo and there was a bunch of articles. Like, at least they could send their parents, like, look, they were on this, you know what I mean? Like, some credibility. Just some credibility to it.

Yeah, for sure. Totally. Which was funny because one person, just the last meal, selfie was like, I got to show this to my mom because I said I'm going to a TikToker's house.

That's so funny. So anyways, we got to meal like six and there's hundreds signed up. And I said, we can't afford it. We just can't afford this. So we opened a GoFundMe and I said, as long as this is filled, I will cook. Like, I don't care what I like. I love that part of it for me. Yeah. And that's part like truly that's like a healing thing for me. It puts me just in a good place.

Like the process. Yeah. And it was, we opened the GoFundMe, it's filled in like an hour. And then overfilled. So then it went to hundreds of students.

The last meal had nine. Nine universities.

We threw a year-end party. 1,500 was the capacity for the place. It was filled in six minutes. Wow. We had somebody drive 10 hours from Ball State, Ohio to come to it with their friend.

You hit it right on the head. People ask us, they're like, well, why do they need food? Everyone just needs community. Some of them need just a house to walk into, a break from their day. That's not our place. Our door is just open. I don't care why you're here. Just come.

And we work with the universities on the back end and let them know that we have them. And it's on those groups that there are students that need food. Tell them to come. We don't need to know they're coming. Let them walk in with the rest of their students. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah. The rest of your peers and...

I'll never make a decision based off what somebody bad could do, right? Yeah. I'm not too worried. Yeah. I would tell you this. Here, you're invited. You guys ever want to come to a meal, you can help me cook. You can be a part of it. You can help serve and walk and serve. you will see some of the most grateful people.

The amount of people, we have to beg them to go grab more Tupperware and get more food.

It's so nice you guys are doing this. We're like, no, grab the food. That's so cool.

There's dozens of them. No, no, no.

Wouldn't that be so cool? The bureaucracy behind it's tough. But I will also give a shout out, a place at the table, Raleigh. It's pay as you can. More than 80% of the people don't pay a penny.

I love that. It's a massive kitchen. It's great food.

Every community should have a place like that. And there are places that are making it happen.

And your kids are awesome.

is as honest as she was in this and writes extremely well and will make you feel like her arms are around you and make you feel like you are doing a great job. Like her writing in this, everyone looks at the photos and she organized the photos too, that's her touch. But there's writing in there that walks you through pregnancy and there's advice from both of us, the topics we hit.

Be intentional in this moment. Your life will change after this baby comes. So stop right now and talk about the things you love right now. Yeah. And then get jacked up about the change. Yeah. And that's the purpose of it.

Every week has three recipes.

There's some desserts. I showed you one of the mocktails.

Well, today, Matt, me and you are going to cook for Abby and Rachel. Baby number three. Oh, my gosh.

Woo!

Your bodies, it's truly amazing, are never the same two days in a row. Whether you're on a 28, 32, 34-day cycle, throughout that time, your body's asking for different things. My father died four years ago, and this is coming up on one year. They taught me great love, and my kids aren't going to feel it.

Separation anxiety.

Yeah, when she runs in the room now at night, there's a little smirk on my face.

This is like the epitome of like, to sum it up, it was day two when she was in her playroom and went in the corner. Oh, yeah.

we have a playroom and she plays in there a lot, like on her own. And she'll be like, like kind of pushes off, like very independent. And then all of a sudden, the next time, every time she needs to play since Rosie got home was pulling us in there or with her. Like we needed to be there. And all of a sudden she went in the corner, put her head down and would not look up at us.

it was like this so and I would never see a pouty face that I've never seen on her and we're like we're trying to FaceTime people we're trying to and she like won't look up FaceTime her friends FaceTime our family for an hour yeah for an hour and for a whole hour she like as parents like the like put yourself in that moment yeah and it was like whatever we did grabbed presented I was like do you want to play with pickles and she'd be like do you want to eat this do you want to call this person and she'd be like I'm okay

Can we just give it up? Matt looked at the camera and freaked me out when I was like, should I look this way or this way? But now I'm seeing what's going on. I love it.

what I'm hearing I mean here's the thing new baby it's a transition for every member of the house right like dad mom and then date nights like our intimacy like the love we have for each other like yeah we really believe we have to love each other so they see what it is right like so even getting that back and rekindled and you know it's a lot yeah pregnancy was I don't know how your pregnancy was did you deal so like I dealt with pregnancy rage this time around did I

We found out when we were pregnant that we found out Rachel was pregnant when we found out my mom got sick and we lost my mom like right into the beginning. So there was just also just a lot of variables.

Just do it very carefully. Sweet. I have a lot of techniques, but you don't want to overdo it because then it gets bad. So there's that right when it turns. And I probably forgot right when, you know, there was like a little run.

It could be anything.

It goes back to like, she's carrying the baby. Her hormone. Listen, we have a book on hormones and women's health.

However, there is that difficulty of like... I'm getting beat up. I don't want to take it out on you. I do need somewhere to go to also get that out. And I'm extremely grateful for her. It would be like the next day that she'd be like, that came out of nowhere. And to me, I was like, oh, thank God. I'm not just being a bad husband.

You're about to send a voice memo to someone you haven't talked to in a long time.

Yeah. Does it ever happen when your phone is in your butt? Or is it like when you're holding your...

No, obviously not in your butt. But how often does your phone call someone when it's actually in your pocket?

And I was like, I feel like majority of the time my flashlight is on and people think I'm recording or something, but it's just my I've turned my flashlight on. Maybe that's what happened with Britney in Salt Lake City.

Yeah. Like, I'm a big booty husband, big dick husband. Heart, heart, eggplant, eggplant, Nick. It's like, whoa.

That was the scariest fucking voice note I've ever heard in my life.

Like not even because it's Justin Baldoni. If I heard it from anyone, if I heard it from my own husband, like I'm calling the police. That was very scary. It sounded like he had just jacked off for two hours. Like heavy breathing. It was just the most uncomfortable thing I've ever heard. Yeah.

That's fucking crazy. Like the fact that people are like, what? He literally just said that, like, I'm sure you have a baby on your boob. Like, what's the problem with that? It's like, I'm fucking sorry if any other man besides my husband is like, hey, I'm sure there's a baby on your boob right now. Like you could say maybe you're nursing. I'm sorry. Like you might be nursing, right? Nursing.

That's the only word you're allowed to say as a man who's not my husband is nursing.

Yeah. That's also fucked up. Yeah. They're like, I'm sure you're asleep, but I'm going to send a six and a half minute voice note anyways. Talk to me tomorrow.

But if it's a response, he's literally saying like.

He says, sorry if this wakes you up. He wouldn't say that if they were just texting five minutes beforehand.

Man, I... Man, that's hard to do.

But it's also... There's also in there, like, I get all of Blake Lively, our chemistry, our... Like, the stuff he's saying is, like, not stuff I would want my husband sending someone he works with. Like, that's just... People disagree. I know, but it's like... That is just the scariest.

I lost access to mine.

I do feel like it's going to be hard if they continue to release footage of like, how are they going to pick a jury for this trial? It's like they're just.

And you also love a young man with long hair and muscles.

Leia just quit. Damn it, Nick.

Did y'all see that Logan Paul and Jake Paul are now going to fight each other?

I hope they both lose.

We tied. We hit each other the exact same amount of times. I mean, I feel like all the critics of Jake Paul is just like, you seem like you're really good, but like, can you fight an actual boxer? If that's like his lane of boxing, why won't you fight an actual like leading, ranked boxer?

Like clearly him fighting his brother. You guys have been doing this since grade school. Come on now.

I mean, they put this on Max. They got to deal with Max to air this.

Hair stylist.

You know... I think it's more the dancing. And I feel like I exceeded my TikTok trend dancing in COVID. Yeah. You know, I feel like I pushed it too far in COVID and I won't be returning back to that version of myself. Because I watch them back and it's honestly the cringiest thing I've ever seen. So we all have those moments.

In front of her, in her. Yeah.

He does look like a Jeremy.

Yeah, they're all influencers. They're all influencers. Every one of their bio is like, I want to be famous, is basically what all of them said.

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And the Hard Eyes trailer came on. And we're like, oh, it's Olivia. That's fun. That's exciting. It looks really good. Thank you.

How did you perfect the scream? What was your homework?

Listen, I would be just as pissed as Bachelor Nation if it sucked. Like if it was a shitty song, I'd be like, are you for real? Like you're trying to promote this shitty ass song. No. It's not good. No, I would be like, come on, for real. But because it's so good, it's like-

Something's going on in apartment B9.

I feel like a mask really does, it does its job. Yeah. Honestly, like, I feel like I've, this is so random, but, like, have you ever driven past, I don't know, a car or a truck, an 18-wheeler, and they, like, for some reason have a scary mask, like, hanging in there? I don't know why. Can't say I've experienced that. I see those all the time. Do you know what I'm talking about, Justin?

Yeah. I've seen the fake feet.

Hate those people. Yeah. For why? Why? Why are we doing that?

Yeah, they got to mix that shit up.

They want to get a little like, you know, they don't get those anymore. Yeah, they don't.

No. Why not? Yeah, I watched some 18-wheeler truck drivers were like,

telling a story or doing some interview or something and they were like whenever we get a kid who does that it's like a big deal like we talk about it with everyone and we're like we finally got a kid to like get us did you do that as a kid i yeah of course i did did you do that absolutely i guess kids aren't doing it anymore that seemed like a or did you i almost got ran off the road by an 18-wheeler so you stopped doing it i was like i don't stay clear i don't try to connect with them bitches at all not for me not for me

I don't know if it's the parents. Yeah, I feel like maybe kids are just talking on iPads.

But I feel like kids just aren't looking out the window as much as we were. Yeah, I think that's a good theory.

I guess. I don't know.

You will now. And it will honestly spook you out probably just as much as being in a room with someone.

Didn't Erica Jane?

One of these days. What has been the most like surreal moment of your career thus far?

Wait, so has Grant said anything about people hating on him?

I've actually only ever seen your name for that. Really? Yeah.

But, I mean, Brittany's from Louisiana. Louisiana. You're from Tennessee. There's like that southern roots. I don't know. I feel like you would totally crush that.

I'm like, how y'all doing? And it's so easy to pull back into it.

do it is it comes out so yeah yeah oh no you can't hear it oh no did you have to take i mean i did too and i obviously regret it now but did you take dialect classes to yeah yeah

Oh, he's got a muzzle on. Probably. Yeah.

Yeah.

I like I had a manager who was like, you're not going to do anything in life if you have this. I mean, it was like a thick. I was very redneck and they were like, you're not going to make it anywhere with this. And so but now I feel like, yeah, it's a part of me that like when I'm around other people from the South or my family or, you

I just call someone who has a slight accent and it comes out and I'm so grateful that it does. Cause I'm like, you're still in me. Exactly.

It was in the time of like, you have to sound like a news anchor, you know, like they weren't gonna, I don't know why that was. Like Reese Witherspoon.

Yeah, that's true.

As soon as I went to TikTok and it was like, everyone was like posting their, where it was like, you cannot access. And everyone was posting that. So I wanted to see if it was for myself too. And then when it was, it's like, oh. guess I'll delete TikTok like if it's gone. You too. And I deleted the app and now I can like it's not that app is not in the app store.

I can't associate with you guys anymore. You won't be seeing me on TikTok anymore.

That's so true though. It's so true. I'm like reading my book at night and not like scrolling constantly.

I'm actually like with my daughter while she's learning things and not like watching. Incredible. Incredible. Yeah. I've never been more present.

miss miss casey miss casey was and then it continued on and he was like what is this are we in c i'm like this is still season one i'm like did you just stop watching and think that was like season finale what happened there's like three more episodes after that anyways oh because that was like season like it was like episode he thought it was like the season finale was that finding out that that was his wife no it got better no it got wild it got really wild where are you in season two

I'm glad that we didn't start season one until season two is out because when we finished season one, I was like, can you imagine waiting two years plus for the next season to come out? That's crazy. Are you into reality TV? I feel like, yeah, you are, right? What is your go-to? I don't know.

Yeah, they've gone really far. I feel like season one was so like because it was COVID time and it was like anything that came out during COVID was the best thing you've ever seen in your life.

I feel like a lot of actors love Love is Blind. Why do you think that is? I don't know why that is. What does that say about us?

That's what I said.

You don't think they're affluent?

What did you think it meant?

Like fluent in English.

Okay.

i know my answer i think high body count here yeah because you can't it takes so long to fix the bangs yeah and i say like like that's gonna take forever to grow out so much whoa you fuck yeah but bangs it's like what are you gonna do you can only like you have forever to think about that until they grow out the fact that like i think most women are agreeing with you is awesome

Anything with the elderly is like, you can't mess with some people.

really really everyone everyone's basic we're all a little basic but boring that cuts deeper than like oh my god you love starbucks and fall and like football i am who i am okay you know boring i'm not here to entertain you would you rather attend a pizza party at chucky cheese or a 53 year old's bat mitzvah oh this one's hard

No.

Yeah, we're constantly in coach, Nick. Why do you feel like you wouldn't want to do that?

Where did these happen on?

Right. That's so true. And also I feel like because they weren't in the act yet, you know, like maybe it would have been different if like you saw them all having sex and then like that's an image that's scarred into your brain. Yeah. But they were all just hanging out in their underwear. What's the game? Strip Twister. They were playing Strip Twister.

Okay. That's a really tricky. I don't want to make out with a bunch of people I don't want to make out with.

They do. I definitely am the ultimatum. I cannot marry someone that I have not seen or get engaged to someone that I have not seen. I'm with you. That is fucking hard.

Yeah.

That's hot.

We need to talk about that.

Well, what does that mean? You look like a rock. No, no, no. Not the personality of a rock, but they could look like a rock. You've got to have a great personality. A funny rock. A funny, charming. You have to make me laugh.

All right.

Oh, my God. Friends who hire a PI like the FBI. Sorry. What am I? Am I on their radar?

But if he's coming to you and being like, you have, you only can call me Johnny bottles. He's an asshole. You know, it's like, I can't do that.

But also fantasy suites is after both.

They've met your family and you've bugged. So I got to go after you meet my family. I'd rather you just like, instead of going through all of that.

You're like your stroke game is weak. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like I'd rather you break up with me after you like meet my crazy aunt versus like after you meet my crazy aunt and then we have sex.

Yeah, do you want to talk about it? Yeah, are you okay, honey? Are you okay? These are triggering for Nick. Can we get a new game? You're triggering my husband.

But for this hypothetical situation.

Yeah, I don't know if I want to be like followed by someone I am like, I don't like.

Thanks for playing. Thank you. I feel like we learned so much about you from that. Really? Yeah, I feel like we learned that you don't care about looks. All you care about is personality. Funny rocks. Okay, I do care about looks. But you'll marry a funny rock. Sure. I'm going to make that my Instagram bio.

Thank you. We operate on your time. Oh, truly. Truly. This is a different Heidi and Spencer than when was that, like a year ago?

What is happening? What are you saying? I don't know. Are you comparing him to who? No.

We get what you're saying. He's a great manager.

Thank you. Oh my God, he's speechless. We made Spencer Pratt speechless.

Correct me if I'm wrong. So your house had burned down and then you went to your parents' house or correct. And then their house, you had to leave their house as well.

What an iconic line. My Aunt Meryl Streep, right? Where was Martin Short?

You missed one!

How are your boys?

She said it was the fence she shares with her neighbors. Maybe it was her neighbor's fence.

I'm sure it's hard for him to grasp of just the like, they're, you know, that there's just, like, his room's gone, all of his toys, you know, I just, like, can't imagine what's going through his head. Yeah. How old is he? Seven. Seven, yeah.

Be that person for them. Right.

Did you see all of the safe from Spencer Pratt comments on everyone's?

And so it was just the easiest thing to do that would make such a difference.

I did a TikTok.

But then when they said that, I was like,

It can be with Nas or without.

How did you get her email?

And so expensive. Oh yeah.

Hey, Taylor.

So is Pitbull making a mix? So it's done. What is he doing?

Okay.

Is this what you were talking about recently where you were like a huge... No, that's even... Something different.

Mr. Worldwide.

She walked to me. My mom was, like, thank God, recording, so we got it on video. Oh, my gosh. She's pretty obsessed with that.

but it's definitely called baby steps for a reason. Cause they are very like, yeah.

You deserve the world.

When was the last time you sang live?

And like, you'll always be in my heart. And like, I'll always care for you. And I'll always love you.

It sounds like you love me.

Oh, my God. It's insane. My jaws on the floor.

That is crazy. That is so good.

But it is crazy. I'm sure like eventually you'll be giving this same chance to someone in the future, you know, like you'll be. the crazy big pop star superstar that they're having to deal with, you know, like they're waiting on your time.

Clearly he made up this reason as to why he wanted to break up with her because. What are you supposed to say to someone?

It is sad to see. It's sad. I mean, you can see in Rachel's face just how heartbroken she is. And I mean, I feel for her.

So it's a real casting account.

This person is taking this like it's their personal Instagram. Bitch, we don't know who you are.

They meant it for close friends. I mean, the amount of times Sierra tags me in a video and then it's deleted. I'm like, well, she has the wrong account. It's the most mortifying moment of my life.

Well, R, we had a design meeting yesterday for the Lake House and Nick sent them our episode from yesterday. Yeah. And he was like, please don't. Wait. Wait. Don't listen to that. Wait. Hold on. I'm trying to send you a Pinterest link.

They were like. Yeah. Fuck you, Pinterest.

From your laptop.

It is. He has yet to fix that. My what? YouTube it. The TV's still talking every time we... I haven't figured that one out.

Or do I just want Natalie to keep yelling at me every time the TV's buffering?