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Rene Haas

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Arm CEO Rene Haas on AI: Nvidia Lessons, Intel’s Decline and the US-China Chip War

So we were involved at that time in trying to do mobile chipsets connecting to an Intel processor, right?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Arm CEO Rene Haas on AI: Nvidia Lessons, Intel’s Decline and the US-China Chip War

And back in the day, for those who remember PC architecture, doing these chipsets competing with Intel was really hard business.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Arm CEO Rene Haas on AI: Nvidia Lessons, Intel’s Decline and the US-China Chip War

And Intel was making it very, very hard to compete relative to the integration that they did.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Arm CEO Rene Haas on AI: Nvidia Lessons, Intel’s Decline and the US-China Chip War

And in fact, that was the genesis of starting to pivot to Arm in a very big way inside Nvidia.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Arm CEO Rene Haas on AI: Nvidia Lessons, Intel’s Decline and the US-China Chip War

Because at that time, Jensen looked at what was going on with SOCs and Arm-based architecture and moved everybody on to the SOC program.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Arm CEO Rene Haas on AI: Nvidia Lessons, Intel’s Decline and the US-China Chip War

Yes.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Arm CEO Rene Haas on AI: Nvidia Lessons, Intel’s Decline and the US-China Chip War

Could not find a bidder.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Arm CEO Rene Haas on AI: Nvidia Lessons, Intel’s Decline and the US-China Chip War

That's right.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Arm CEO Rene Haas on AI: Nvidia Lessons, Intel’s Decline and the US-China Chip War

Oh boy, a lot there to describe.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Arm CEO Rene Haas on AI: Nvidia Lessons, Intel’s Decline and the US-China Chip War

So the way to think about NVIDIA, and to some extent, even though I'm the CEO of Arm, I don't want to tie it necessarily back to Arm, but in our world, what really drives demand is compute workloads.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Arm CEO Rene Haas on AI: Nvidia Lessons, Intel’s Decline and the US-China Chip War

At the end of the day, it's compute workloads.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Arm CEO Rene Haas on AI: Nvidia Lessons, Intel’s Decline and the US-China Chip War

And when a new workload is essentially either identified and or invented,

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Arm CEO Rene Haas on AI: Nvidia Lessons, Intel’s Decline and the US-China Chip War

Then it comes down to what is the best architecture processor-wise to address that workload.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Arm CEO Rene Haas on AI: Nvidia Lessons, Intel’s Decline and the US-China Chip War

So let's look at AI, you know, the lightning bolt moment of AlexNet and the work actually that the Demison team were working on.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Arm CEO Rene Haas on AI: Nvidia Lessons, Intel’s Decline and the US-China Chip War

AI, particularly training, is a very, very complex parallel problem that is well-suited for a GPU.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Arm CEO Rene Haas on AI: Nvidia Lessons, Intel’s Decline and the US-China Chip War

And in fact, the very first work done by the engineers on AlexNet was not with Blackwell, it was not with an AI processor, but it was with a gaming GPU, a gaming card.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Arm CEO Rene Haas on AI: Nvidia Lessons, Intel’s Decline and the US-China Chip War

So NVIDIA was in a very, very good place to seize that moment relative to DeepMind moment slash AlexNet slash the transformer slash training and fast forward training these complex AI models as Demis was just talking about.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Arm CEO Rene Haas on AI: Nvidia Lessons, Intel’s Decline and the US-China Chip War

This is a huge, huge amount of work.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Arm CEO Rene Haas on AI: Nvidia Lessons, Intel’s Decline and the US-China Chip War

Now, what role does ARM play there?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Arm CEO Rene Haas on AI: Nvidia Lessons, Intel’s Decline and the US-China Chip War

Every one of these workloads requires a CPU to not only run the computer, but help the accelerator run.