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Richard Chan

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

Thanks, Robert.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

Thanks for having me.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

Excited to be here.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

Yeah, no problem.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

So Medicare is the federal health insurance program for people who are over the age of 65 in the US.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

And so for most people, it is a mandatory transition that has to happen at some point in their life, either at 65 or if they're working past 65 when they retire.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

Yeah, that's right.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

There's a lot of things that people aren't aware of.

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There's something called late enrollment penalties.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

And so generally, if you miss your window to sign up and you don't have any other sort of coverage, there are penalties up to 10% of your premium for every single year.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

You could have had Medicare, but you didn't.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

And they are lifelong.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

So once you sign up, they last forever.

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Yeah.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

So, Medicare as a program generally will cover what they consider, in quotes, medically necessary services.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

So, that would be things like going to the doctor, if you get into an accident, going to the hospital.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

But it won't cover things like routine dental, routine vision, at least not in the basic program.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

That's not what the Medicare program was designed for.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

When you think about Medicaid, it's really for critical services or necessary services.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

And there are now some really private plans that I think you were inferring earlier that do cover some of these routine dental and routine vision and other services that maybe the traditional program doesn't cover.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

That's correct.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

Medicare doesn't cover long-term care.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

And in many cases, it doesn't really cover assisted living or any of the costs associated with that.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

Yeah, the first is Medicare is not free.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

I think a lot of people understand that there's an amount taken out each month that supports the Medicare program.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

But when you turn 65, there is a premium that you need to pay unless you have low-income assistance.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

For some high income earners, depending on your bracket, it's as much as three times the standard rate for someone who is on Medicare.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

So that's important.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

Number two is that there are very specific enrollment windows.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

So you don't want to miss them.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

As soon as you're about six months out of 65, whether you are intending to stay on your work insurance or not.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

You should proactively approach that decision around whether you are going to go into Medicare or not, really because there are situations where maybe your work plan isn't considered as good as Medicare's, and so therefore you would still incur penalties for staying on that work plan.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

Yep, exactly right.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

It's based on your income from two years ago.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

Yeah, so that's a good question.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

The answer is somewhat.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

So Medicare itself is a mandatory program, so it is funded by existing laws, which generally means that they don't require an annual vote through Congress to continue operating.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

Having said that, generally what that means is only critical services are continued, and so I think the expectation is about 50% of the staff at Medicare would be furloughed during this period.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

So as it relates to how it impacts...

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

people who are making a decision, you can still select a plan, you can still switch.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

But if you try and call directly into the Medicare or the government services, obviously it's going to take longer for them to get back to you.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

Or if you're signing up, turning 65 during these couple of months, it may take longer for you to get registered and get your red, white and blue card.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

Yeah, exactly.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

So a couple of things are happening depending on the type of Medicare plan you're in.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

There is the Medicare Advantage market, which is typically the most common private plan that most people are in.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

A lot of fluctuations in terms of carriers changing benefits.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

There's people leaving markets or reducing the types of plans that are available.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

So we're expecting some of our customers to see notices that may tell them that their plan is at renewing for 2026 or that there's significant changes to the benefits that they're having.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

Really does a lot of the insurers are trying to grapple with how to stay profitable.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

That's one.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

And then for people who are on traditional Medicare, typically they may buy something called a Medicare supplement plan.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

Even in that market, we're seeing not uncommon double-digit hikes in terms of percentage increases for premiums as well.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

So all in all, a decent amount of change, which warrants people making sure that they're looking at their benefits and seeing that it covers what they need for 2026.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

Yeah.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

The first and very most important one is review your annual notice of change.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

That's a document that comes to you in September that talks about, hey, what's happening for the next year for your plan.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

It may be the one that says your plan isn't renewing.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

With that, obviously, review and check if any of the key benefits that you care about changing.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

In addition to that, it's important to look and see if your providers are still working with the plan in the upcoming year.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

There are a lot of changes to networks.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

particularly over the last 18 months, there's probably been about 30 health systems that have dropped different plans across the country.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

Once you've done that, the next best step is really reach out to your agent, broker, or your state health insurance program, someone like Coverite.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

We can help you navigate what are the different benefits for 2026, go through maybe what works for you, and then select a plan that maybe makes sense for what you need.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

But all in all, in short, make sure to read

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

what's changing, make sure to get ahead of it and talk to someone if you're not sure if there's something better or there's something that's missing.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

Yeah, the SHIB programs are mostly volunteers.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

They're not necessarily licensed, but they're capable of kind of understanding the basics of Medicare.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

And that's obviously different to agents and brokers like ourselves who are appointed with each of the carriers and licensed to sell those.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

So we go through certification and licensing.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

And that's different to Medicare.gov, which also you're calling it the federal government hotline, which again, as I mentioned earlier, it's going to be hard to reach them probably over the coming weeks given the shutdown.

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Exactly.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

Yeah, there's a lot of ins and outs as it relates to drug costs, how the drugs work.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

Maybe you've got special drugs and how to get approvals for those.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

And so generally, with people who are licensed to understand how each of the insurance companies work, if you need those sorts of approvals, that's definitely a great channel to go through.

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Making the Most of Medicare, and the Bull Turns 3

Thanks a lot, Robert.