Rick Rubin

He would play me the songs he loved, either from childhood or songs that he thinks he'd like to sing, or a song he wrote. And it was just a very honest experience. And then we went into the studio. We picked some of those songs. We went through hundreds of songs.

He would play me the songs he loved, either from childhood or songs that he thinks he'd like to sing, or a song he wrote. And it was just a very honest experience. And then we went into the studio. We picked some of those songs. We went through hundreds of songs.

and then picked a handful to try to record and we went when we went into the studio with the band it didn't sound it didn't have what the living room recordings had there was some intimate honesty and we'd never heard johnny cash that way before Um, so that led to the first album, which was a solo acoustic album.

and then picked a handful to try to record and we went when we went into the studio with the band it didn't sound it didn't have what the living room recordings had there was some intimate honesty and we'd never heard johnny cash that way before Um, so that led to the first album, which was a solo acoustic album.

Again, we didn't set out to make a solo acoustic album, but it revealed itself as that's the most interesting thing to do. And that ended up being very successful and very successful with young people, which he had not experienced since the 1950s. Um, so that was a.

Again, we didn't set out to make a solo acoustic album, but it revealed itself as that's the most interesting thing to do. And that ended up being very successful and very successful with young people, which he had not experienced since the 1950s. Um, so that was a.

And after that, after the success of that album, we made five more albums together and he had confidence based on the experience of the first one, which he'd expected nobody to care about really, uh, took to cold with people. And then on, I think it was on our fourth or fifth album, um, he did a cover of hurt the nine inch nail song.

And after that, after the success of that album, we made five more albums together and he had confidence based on the experience of the first one, which he'd expected nobody to care about really, uh, took to cold with people. And then on, I think it was on our fourth or fifth album, um, he did a cover of hurt the nine inch nail song.

And that ended up being probably the biggest, you know, maybe the biggest hit of his life, certainly of his later life. Wow. And, um, and that was a real revelation.

And that ended up being probably the biggest, you know, maybe the biggest hit of his life, certainly of his later life. Wow. And, um, and that was a real revelation.

I'll say it's not as simple as that because there's a vulnerability required for the artist. that if you're confident to the point that it disguises your vulnerability, that doesn't work. So it's like a dance between being wildly open and vulnerable and commitment to do whatever it takes to get your work through. That combination, which is a difficult combination.

I'll say it's not as simple as that because there's a vulnerability required for the artist. that if you're confident to the point that it disguises your vulnerability, that doesn't work. So it's like a dance between being wildly open and vulnerable and commitment to do whatever it takes to get your work through. That combination, which is a difficult combination.

That's true. There's, I'll say though, to get up in front of people and sing.

That's true. There's, I'll say though, to get up in front of people and sing.

Yes. And it's not about perfection. That's the thing. It's like, humanity breathes in the mistakes you know in the it's what it's what's not ordinary if it was if it was machine like perfect it's not so interesting it's cookie cutter all right it's all the same so it's the it's the edges it's the frayed edges that make it interesting

Yes. And it's not about perfection. That's the thing. It's like, humanity breathes in the mistakes you know in the it's what it's what's not ordinary if it was if it was machine like perfect it's not so interesting it's cookie cutter all right it's all the same so it's the it's the edges it's the frayed edges that make it interesting

I learned when I was 14, and it's been a big part of my life the whole time. I can't say I've done it continually, but I go through phases of five years on, two years off, or something might replace it that's another kind of a meditation, like I may go from a TM sitting meditation to learning Tai Chi and Tai Chi will be, will fill the slot of my TM time.

I learned when I was 14, and it's been a big part of my life the whole time. I can't say I've done it continually, but I go through phases of five years on, two years off, or something might replace it that's another kind of a meditation, like I may go from a TM sitting meditation to learning Tai Chi and Tai Chi will be, will fill the slot of my TM time.

I would always say just have as much fun as possible because we, um, I, I'm a workaholic by nature and I love making things and I love making good things and a great deal of time and effort goes into that. And, uh, and I'm hard on myself in that way and that I, I have high expectations. Um, And I think we can have fun too.

I would always say just have as much fun as possible because we, um, I, I'm a workaholic by nature and I love making things and I love making good things and a great deal of time and effort goes into that. And, uh, and I'm hard on myself in that way and that I, I have high expectations. Um, And I think we can have fun too.