Roberto Ruiz

It's not that easy because Israel, you already lived it. Well, you tell me, they check you up to the article, right? And the big issue or my worst enemy is my passport, because six years ago I went to Sharia, a technology event, And part of the scales was to get to Jordan and to the Emirate to cover this. Exactly.

And since I came from Arab countries and all the Muslim and the Arab for the Israelis, you put them like that. Then they put a yellow stamp on me, which is double review. An hour and a half of interview, one and again the same questions to see what you come to. I come to do journalism. Nerves of lead, right? And the other, and where are you? And they ask you directly, what is your position?

Mi postura es lo más neutral posible, yo que vengo a narrar el conflicto que está viviendo, o los conflictos en Medio Oriente, desde el punto de vista... Y de alguna manera esas entrevistas, yo me pongo bien nervioso en Estados Unidos, imagínate.

Amables o rudísimos? Amables o rudísimos? Amables o rudísimos? Amables o rudísimos? Amables o rudísimos? Amables o rudísimos? Amables o rudísimos? So, no, to what you are going specifically, who invites you. Besides, I was invited to an event, an organization called Latin Press, which brought together 10 journalists from different countries just so they could live what is happening.

And when you answer someone and you buy your ticket, someone else didn't buy it for me. So, six red San Jerónimo flags. Eternal.

Those are the papers that give you the entry of the yellow and the green that they give you and you have to bring it and not lose it for nothing in the world, because in reality you have to deliver it. But they do not seal so that there is no record.

If it weren't for the patronage parties of my people, they would say out there, right? to enter the most conflictive zone because it is due to the power they have of armament, they do not come, they do not cross the country. It is difficult for this type of missiles to arrive from Lebanon to Tel Aviv.

for the type of missiles that are, the ballistic missiles is another thing and we will talk about it later. But then when we were in the Sea of ​​Galilee, we were in the truck and suddenly we heard the alerts, the sirens and that is where the protocol dictates three scenarios.

If you are at home, you already know that in each house there is a Mamab or a refuge by law and this was from the 90s with the attacks of Hussein against Israel. So by default the building has to have a large one

or if it is a department, there are some of the most modern ones that have a safe room reinforced with concrete of 40 centimeters thick and so on to avoid the issue, especially I insist, not the direct impacts because the iron dome has 90-95% of effectiveness, but the remains that fall after it impacts.

The Sea of Galilee.

To the north or to the northeast of Israel, closer to Syria. To Lebanon. Oh, over here. A little towards Syria. The thing is that Israel is very, very thin, it is not so wide. So you get closer and practically the moment you are in the north, you reach the division between Lebanon and Syria. So we stick a little to Syria. to enter the area of the Golan Heights.

It is very active militarily because they have a large part of the bunkers, remembering that the last war, which were very short wars, Israel in its history has had very short wars of six days, of weeks, or it has been more than a year. It is the longest in the history of modern Israel. So everyone is betting there, watching just the airspace on the other side, with the issue of the Iron Dome.

The Iron Dome has three elements, right? A large missile depot, which is 20 missiles that are armed. Another is a supercomputer, which is like a big truck, and everything moves, everything is movable. Everything is movable. Exactly. And another one, a satellite point, which is a radar that is always monitoring the sky. And these are all along the entire border. How many are there?

No one will know. And the one who tells you that there are so many lies because they are very jealous of the issue of confidentiality. Exactly. Yes, because of their protection. Totally agree. How many are there? Where are they? No one will know.

We were even in one of the Mamats, some communities that are on the border, and they told us, dude, I need you to delete everything you were recording right now. because you are teaching the armies, the guerrillas, where we are betting. So we had, that's why I don't bring images of that. But then they are monitoring the airspace.

As soon as the missile comes out, due to heat, they have a thousand monitoring systems, due to heat, due to noise, due to vibrations. As soon as a missile or an RCP or one comes out, ground to ground, the radar detects it. At that moment, the computer, which I think is one of the most advanced there is, Calculates the trajectory and knows where it's going to land.

That's where the first alert comes. And they tell you, this missile is going to land in the Magdalena Contreras. Excuse me for being very... Yes, yes, but so that we can locate it. In such a municipality. Or in the Zócalo. Exactly. There comes the alert and the people of the place react. In that millisecond, as soon as the alert reaches the app, a missile comes out of those, from those of launch.

And it arrives and starts monitoring. As soon as it has the defined trajectory, that missile changes, and there are even videos where it looks spectacular, where the missile comes out and suddenly makes a 180-degree turn and goes to look for the impact. Another detail, they don't impact them.

As soon as they are very close to it, the very missile of the Iron Dome detonates so that that explosion prevents it, and that's what ends the other missile.

Yes, yes, yes. I mean, no enemies? No, because they don't have that capacity. They are more austere, so to speak. Speaking of the border zone, if you talk about Iran, the ballistic ones, which are the ones that measure 18 meters long by 2 in width, and that if it falls one day, forget it, because it's... Those are not detected by the Iron Dome.

It's not another system because they have three systems. Everyone talks about the Iron Dome, but there are three. The Iron Dome, which is in charge of the youngest, so to speak, of the short-range missiles and not so explosive, so to speak. There is David's resort, which is the one that covers the longest missiles, perhaps the ground-to-ground that could come from Iran, which are 2,000 kilometers.

And the ballistic missiles, those 2,000-kilometer routes, they do them in 15 minutes. So, if they have the capacity to monitor them, the United States even alerts them, hey, my radars have already monitored that this missile is coming. And the other layer for the biggest ones, which are the ones that Yemen launched, which are also ballistic, but they have more tonnage and more

Capacity of destruction. There is the arrow system. That now they are working on a system to use the issue of lasers. To be able to detonate them in the air and avoid launching missiles. Because for cost, it's crazy. Each missile of the Iron Dome costs around 70 or 80 thousand dollars. Each one.

And the day I was, for example, the last bombing in Haifa, which is a port to the north, about 25 kilometers from Lebanon, they launched 135, the same ones that had to have launched the iron dome to intercept them.

that now goes with the Aero system, that they did not give us much information on the subject of secrecy, even this bastard, because they took us to where they study the whole system of aeronautics and rally and so on, they put some calculations in the cameras, where if you take them off, it changes color, and they make a demonstration, let's see my bastard, if you take it off, it changes color, and there is a penalty of prison, because if you take it off, it can be pointed out by espionage, so I'm going to tell you whatever you want, as far as possible.

Un camarógrafo, ajá. O regresar a poder pasar todas las imágenes porque era una locura transmitir desde allá. Hoy, gracias a la tecnología y de mi sensei tecnológico... You made a big mistake and that also relieved the Argentine coverage, because he told us about the eSIMs, the digital ones, that we were arriving and, let's see, buy a card. He told me about the card, I saw myself very Neanderthal.

No, no, no, this is very new, the eSIM is very new. And he told me, man, it's cool and everyone making the links live and you didn't run out of signal. Today, with this, with a tripod, with my microphones, it's over, right? And from there you come out live from the point, because Israel is a very connected area.

y tienes la oportunidad de hacer cobertura de guerra en vivo y donde estén ocurriendo las cosas.

Pues te avientas a la aventura. A ver, número uno, en el periodismo es tu... Once again, taking into account my terms, your Super Bowl, your big leagues will be covering this tone, right? So obviously you have the motivation to say, I want to do a good job. And the adrenaline. And the adrenaline. And the other, well, you don't know how you're going to react until you get there.

It's like when you change to Mexico City, our province sees you as a provincial and you hear the chemical alert for the first time. o te cagas, o dices tú, ah, mira, puedo manejar esto. A mi primer bombazo, mi primer misilazo, dije, ok, no tengo un tema yo en lo personal, vamos a desarrollar todo esto y empezar a platicar y transmitir.

Bueno, porque ya estabas curtido, o sea, te has metido hasta en aguas negras, güey. Ya un poquito más el gallito más hecho, ¿no? Nuestro background mexicano también aporta. If there were colleagues, let's see, there were three from the press pool that we were going to, there were three that said, I'm not going. I was going to cover the commemoration of the year of the 7th of October.

And they said, I don't travel. And well, thank you, with permission and very well in your right, right? But then there were people who went back.

It's all day. Right now, for example, I activated it. The issue is nine hours of difference. It's an app. It's an app. It's an app like that. And for example, here you go in and it warns you about all the alerts. I have the whole country active. So you go in here and it tells you in which areas this fell. It's a geolocation like a type of Google Maps. It's been 50 minutes. It was the last bombing.

So here come the areas where the missiles are falling. You open here. This is the Galicia Sea that I was telling you about. This is Haifa, which is the most important port in Israel. And Tel Aviv is... Here, this is Tel Aviv, and this is the gas strip.

It's a very small country, so here they tell you where it's falling, you get into detail, they tell you when it fell, what fell, and that's how the alerts come to you. For example, one just fell. Right now they're bombing. And here you get in and it tells you close because I have all the country active. If this comes close to you, at that moment you run to the refuge. Why?

Because they are already, my missile is in the air. They are about to lower it and all the piece is the one that. In your videos we saw that you just got into one of these refuges. There are many, I insist, in the houses, in the protocols inside the house, being on the street, starting on October 7, they began to build more and more of these shelters or safe places.

It's like a smaller, concrete boat container, there will be about 15 tight people, Y de estos hay en diferentes lugares en la calle. Sobre la calle. A nivel de calle. Sobre todo junto a los paraderos de camión. Ok. Ahorita también te mando estas imágenes. Porque estás esperando el camión y de repente hay alerta, pues te metes al mamá.

which for the 7th of October was the worst scenario, because they were expecting an air attack, not on the ground, and as 1,200 soldiers arrived from Hamas, there they were trenched, there they took advantage and massacred a large part of the people.

I took it to be part of a piece that we are working on to say, and this is a key element in the escalation of violence of what is happening. Because today, and I ask you, the experts, because it is not known, there is no concrete argument, at least from the authority, of how they did it so that all these devices would explode, right?

That for us Mexicans it is to take a piece of the prehistory, but that for the guerrillas, be it Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis, pues sigue siendo su nivel de comunicación, porque no hay forma que, no sé cómo trabajan, hasta donde conozco, de manera diferente a este tipo de dispositivos y no podían hackearlos hasta que ocurrió eso.

This, for example, I nailed it, I thought they were going to take it away from me. In fact, this is the paper that they leave you in Mengurión, in the airport, because all the suitcases open them. It has master keys of all. You had your little padlock and your bag. They passed it through where I talked to you, right?

And they leave you this report, which is where they tell you your suitcase was opened for security reasons. They all open. I said, they're going to take it away from me. And no, I just took the battery out for anything. I said, well, my argument is journalistic. And they did leave it to me. But that's how your suitcase dawns or that's how you pick it up in the carousels.

Because practically 90% of tourism opens the suitcase and they check it from head to toe.

La primera, no, no tuve oportunidad. ¿Por qué? Porque no hay forma de cruzar a Gaza desde Israel. The entrance would be perhaps through Egypt, through Rafah, who was the humanitarian corridor and who later was taken by Israel. That's where all the supplies are coming from, with which they are still surviving, because there is no other way to tell you, surviving the people.

And I'm talking about the citizenry in Gaza. So we got closer, we went to one of the kibbutz where there were the largest number of deaths, one in every four. inhabitants died or were kidnapped when it was the 7th of October, which is 1.3 kilometers from Gaza.

And while we were there, we heard that the armed conflict continued and the cannons of the Israeli army and the RPGs of the Hamas guerrilla there in Gaza. So And I made a face at the time of the commentary because everyone told me, but why don't you get involved? Believe me, I would have loved it, because in an objective coverage you have to show two parts.

And I, every report that I did live or the reports that we do for networks about the Israel situation, I said, let's see, and let's never leave aside the small big difference. When there is an attack, there is always an answer. And it is assumed that it is in proportion to the attack. If they send you 10, they send 10. The issue is that of those 10, none will fall, one will fall.

I insist, in the exercise in Haifa, when it was the strongest attack that Hezbollah has made, which was on October 8th, and that in that way they commemorated their anniversary of war against Israel, they sent 135, they had never sent, 4 of 135 fell. They responded, they did not give the official figure, but each missile that Israel sends to any borders, one has a direct impact.

So the dome has nothing more than Israel? Only. It is the only country that has it. The United States is working on something similar. Obviously always hand in hand with Israel in technology, but actively and that it is working. Only Israel is the one that has the iron dome. That is why the difference and that is why the Gaza Strip is devastated.

And now the suburbs of Lebanon, which is where they are presumably protected from Hezbollah, and that they have the same practice as ever. That is, they put their rockets and they have a system of tunnels under the city, but they have a shield against the civilian population.

That's why they say, hey, Netanyahu, who is another character of which we could talk for half an hour, is saying, look, if you are aware or you have the least suspicion that above your house or that in your house there is a missile, there is a rocket or there are people of Hezbollah, Hamas or the terrorist group that you tell me, get out of your house because we are going to end this zone.

Y obviamente con consecuencias de... ¿Habías apuntado a otra cosa o ya?

Totally. I mean, if you hear the name at a global level, it's basically polarization and at a country level and so on. I think that this scenario, of course, if you make a comment or you are in favor, you are against it. There are no nuances. I tried to do it and even so, this fucking asshole, why don't you get into Palestine? Why don't you get in? From there, it's all good.

Yes, answering comfortably in your coffee. A thousand comments and a thousand things about it, right? I do feel that my coverage was poor. Why? Because I had to have somehow entered this area because devastation is imminent and we see it through social networks. The issue is that both one and the other side maximizes these images

especially in the issue of the affections with children, which is a reality, isn't it? But then also Israel today complains about the loss of life of four soldiers in an attack that Hezbollah made in the northern zone, where they apparently did not expect it and there were fatal victims, which normally does not happen, and once again they talk about martyrs.

As soon as they put those, they reach the Palestinian side. And why don't you talk about the number of fatalities that every day in Palestine and now in Lebanon, which is on a frank path to devastation, as it is already being seen. Polarization is the same in offline and online. Totally agree. So there are no nuances. You can't think of one or the other. I try to do it through the reports.

There are people who buy it, people who don't. But if you're not on one side, you're on the other, practically. Hey, English language? El inglés. O sea, el inglés. Los oficiales en Israel es el árabe. Ajá. Porque mucha gente pensaría, pero lo es. Claro. Es el hebreo, obviamente, y el inglés. Entonces, pues ahí medio le vas jalando.

El tema es que mucha gente de la seguridad, porque muchos de los agentes de seguridad son chavos de 18 y 19 años. Ajá. that some speak English and others don't. The point is for the issue of military service. Remembering that it is mandatory for men and women, men three years, women two, as soon as you turn 18.

That's why it's so impressive to see a lot of armed people, all the people are armed on the street. The issue of deportation is allowed. After October 7, there was even an order, an order from the Israeli government, where the permits to deliver weapons were speeded up. Everyone who had a gun at home, today brings it in a bag. Because...

The recommendation is to keep an eye on the sky, but on the earth, because from October 7th and right now, especially the radicals, the Muslim people, the Arabs who are in Israel and who have spent a lot of time in West Bank, in different areas, are radicalizing after seeing those images. There were two terrorist attacks in the ten days I was there.

One in a bus stop, they killed, they killed seven people before they killed them. And the other in a shopping center where they killed a girl who was doing her military service and who was also armed and could not react and was killed by an Israeli Bedouin.

So, there are always weapons, there is always this issue of mistrust, mistrust is a tense calm that I use a lot the term of tense or calm, I don't give a fuck, it's tension, always distrust of each other and that's why the issue of the military service, I made a comment for Azteca in one of the reports and said, the penalty of not bringing your rifle while you are doing the military service is prison, up to 10 years in prison, why?

Because the latest attacks have seen that these radicals use their weapons. Normally this would happen with the attacks with knives, which is much easier to pass, carry them or grab any knife from your casino and you can make an attack. Today they saw that they used army weapons. Why? Because they were stolen from the kids who were there.

And suddenly you see that they are on the beach, for example in Tel Aviv, entering the sea, boys and girls, carrying their rifle to the sea, because you can't leave them for a minute. asoleándose con el fusil recostado porque no saben en qué momento va a empezar el tema de un ataque a nivel de tierra, no en el tema del cielo.

What does a fixer do? Help you, facilitate you, as the term says, fix things for you. And it can be from a translator, whoever moves you from top to bottom. We hire one to be able to move us, because many taxis and taxis... But it's like a tourist guide.

But that it ventures a little more. So that we understand a little.

Maybe it could be... Pero van enfocados a temas de conflictos porque cuando todo se cierra, en el tema de los taxis de aplicación, ya nada más te cubren ciertas zonas, no van al norte. El norte está vacío. Hay 60 mil personas que fueron desplazadas del norte, que está pegado Siria y Líbano, por los bombardeos que son un día sí y el otro también.

Esas personas están en hoteles, están en departamentos que les renta el gobierno, y ahí tienen un año viviendo familias completas en un departamento. Y entonces mucha gente no va al norte por el miedo a los bombardeos. El fixer es lo que te hace. Yo sí te llevo al norte. Obviamente para el tema de lucrar.

Estoy arriesgando mi vida, estoy poniendo mi carro, estoy poniendo lo que tú me quieras que te consiga. Pues obviamente te voy a currar. ¿Y ellos te buscan o tú lo buscas o cómo? No, pues casi casi la app, ¿no? No, no. I have the contact of Roni, so hey Roni, look, I want to move there, is there a patrol?

You don't know that right now we are all posted, because many times the army is the one who does these patrols, because they also want to spread what is happening, right? Especially when right now the Israeli army or the Israeli Defense Forces, which is the correct name, are on trial. on October 7th. It shouldn't have happened on October 7th.

The United States alerted them with weeks or months in advance that they were working on an attack of that level. Netanyahu apparently is the one who minimized the fact and that's why the consequences. There is an investigation of the prosecution, so to speak, there, currently, to find out what happened on October 7th, because on a border as guarded as Gaza, that 1,200 terrorists entered and killed

Titi Puchal de personas, pues obviamente es un tema de hasta negligencia y hay una investigación a la par. Por eso se dice que este conflicto se va a escalar lo más posible y va a durar eternamente porque es lo que necesita Netanyahu para permanecer en el poder y que no termine esta investigación. ¿Alguna vez te agarraron tu teléfono para revisarlo? No.

Unlike, for example, the United States, you already see that your friend Trump, this one, suddenly started there with him. Let's see, make me the border, let's see if you are in favor or against. Never. I say, I think they already checked you enough before entering the airport issue, but not in the street. And you bring a piece of missiles, right? Yes, no, here is the little piece.

This is part of the machine gun. This is what the Israelis are terrified of, right? Because when the missile falls, it impacts. Ah, that's another one. Many of those missiles that they launch, they let them fall because of the cost. When the trajectory says that it is going to fall in an open area, they let them fall. They do not pursue it. They do not lower it. They prefer it better.

It is cheaper to fix the facade of a house because you would say, well, in an open building, no. Sometimes there is a building and crossing the street there is a rough terrain, as we would say here. And that's where this one fell. So this machine gun, when it falls, it goes flying. It injured, of course, two people. And all, for example, the facade of a building, broken windows and others.

Apart from the protocol, it's crazy. In less than 15 minutes, nothing happened. Since the missile fell, the army, the police, all the elements of civil protection and others arrive. Atiende la situación, obviamente primero los lesionados, después entra un censo, su equivalente, entra un censo para decir, ¿quién tuvo daños?

Levantes tu mano, mira yo, tal, tus vidrios y demás, te levantan, te entregan tu contraparte para que te lo pague el gobierno. Mientras están haciendo el reporte, la seguridad de aquí, cayó un misil, dejes volar, bla, bla, bla, bla. There is already the garbage truck and these special sweepers cleaning the area and in 15 minutes nothing happened.

They explain to me that it is because of an anemic issue. If this did not happen like this, they could not continue with this normalization of the way, because it is my day to day. If they left traces for a long time of the missiles. And now, how was it?

Cristian, my wife, knows what we do and suddenly we make it live until we made it viral there that the other one with a distressed face while the missiles were and others. That's the thing, I mean, I was very shocked the first night of seeing the kids, like any Friday night here in Polanco or anywhere else, because they are used to it.

But then I reflect on it for a second and I insist, we have normalized since many years ago the violence, the cartels, the insecurity, and even in this building where a missile fell to meters and fortunately it did not kill anyone, I found a Mexican who is 11 years old living there. And I ask the question as is, hey, It's the first missile that falls next to your house.

Yes, the window of his son's room broke, a machine gun fell and so on. Fortunately, they weren't there. And what are you going to do after this? Are you going back or not? He says, my mother. He says, I'm relatively safe here because I know that if they send me a missile, I run to my refuge and my dome or my refuge is going to protect me.

Yo el día de mañana regreso a México y yo no sé qué me va a pasar en un paradero de camión. Yo no sé si mi hijo puede salir seguro al parque, si me van a violar, si me van a desaparecer. Entonces, pues es un chingadazo de realidad que te ubica de normalizar. ¿Qué, güey? Yo estoy tranquilo.

Tú eres el que deberías de preocuparte porque hoy con mi hija de 14 años, yo no sé qué voy a hacer cuando me digas que quiero salir en la noche. Híjole, me la juego, ¿no?

No, pues power banks. Puros power. 20 power banks. A mí me hizo un parote el tarjeta de la SIM. ¿Por qué? Porque creo que parte del consumo de la batería es estar buscando señales constantemente. Entonces, pues aquí yo estaba apostado, no tenía bronca. Obviamente, pues vas cargado con diferentes power banks. Y con eso yo no tenía problema. Regresaba.

Mi adaptador, que es para cuando vayas a donde sea. Y mi multicontacto y los power banks son con los que salía adelante sin ninguna bronca.

Yes, because the flights are closing and I insist, you can also go out with these two airlines and the issue is that they already have several weeks of delay, so they are going to be in line. When we were going to enter, there were 350 people for the flight at 8.20 in the morning in Athens. And suddenly, gentlemen, there are 140 guys. And they started to do it, I don't know if randomly.

You had your application and suddenly your flight was canceled. Ah, well, let's go back. And they stepped on me, thank God. And thanks to some girls who also served me as translators, because in that filter they did not speak English, only Hebrew. So through them we were able to enter. And back, it was a marathon because it was also... Israel-Athens...

Tel Aviv, Athens, Athens-Paris, Paris-Atlanta, Atlanta-Mexico.

No, no, no. At the end of the day, you have your visa, it doesn't matter where it is, the point is only in Israel. They already put my white label on me. That means you're free.

In the back here, I had this that only makes tickets. The yellow one. The yellow one, now I found out, is the worst thing they can put on you. Check it out from the cuticle to the feet. That was when you went to Jordan. Exactly. And they had already put another alert on me. And then right now that they put the white one on me, it's like saying, okay, dude, you had a good time. Go, dude.

It's inoffensive. It's like his global entry from the East.

Exactly.

No, no, no. It's the Ross, as I said. You're in your thing. You're with the intention of making the coverage as broad as possible. With the intention of being there looking for how to filter you to Lebanon. For now, currently, or Gaza. But yes, I think I stay with the commitment of giving it this B side. If not in SITUM, if through what is spread in international agencies, well, the DND in Gaza.

They ended up today, a few hours ago, bombing a refugee camp in Gaza. There is no version currently of the Israeli authorities, but presumably what they are going to say is that they had clues that there was activity in the area. Because the issue of the tunnels is crazy. I think it's worth it after they talk about it. They have 500 kilometers of tunnels below Gaza.

And even, and this obviously I don't want to fly it, presumably it is said that the cartel of Sinaloa had links with the guerrilla and that from there came the topic of the Chapo for the tunnel and escape. Because like those of Jamás, they are the masters of the tunnels. Yes, yes. In this network that is 20 meters below. profundidad.

Entonces que de ahí o les pasaron data o la idea y demás para el túnel del Chapo con el que se escapó. Óralo, los contrataron. Vente a hacer el túnel para acá.

Well, we arrived and they are doing a common work agenda where you are going to interview, for example, we interviewed many of the kidnapped, of the relatives, of the people, excuse me, the people who managed to get out of those who are still there. More than 100 people remain in the tunnels of Jamás, according to intelligence, at least half. He's already lost his life and he's trying to recover.

That's why he's all over the place. Come back now. And it's the demand of the citizenship for the government of Israel. And then we arrived and there were interviews with them and suddenly they recorded them because they had a single camera. If I'm going to have it, I'll work on that note later. Well, I'm going to the north.

And that's when I, with Gonzalo, with this TN correspondent in Argentina, we hired the fixer and we went to the north to do this. ¿Hubo un momento en que traías chaleco, antibalas y casco? Siempre que entrabas al norte, te exigían el ejército, ponte su chaleco. ¿Y te lo daban ellos o qué?

El ejército sí, Gonzalo llevaba su chaleco y yo otro, un poquito más ligerito, que me dieron parte de la seguridad del grupo en donde trabajo y que me dijeron por cualquier cosa. Y este lo traías en ciudad, era muy cómodo, pero para el tema de los atentados in situ, entre los terroristas a nivel de tierra.

Me llevé dos celulares porque este me falló y me... Te odio, maldito, en el tema del audio. Yo pensé que eran los micrófonos. Me llevé los DJI y los acababa de comprar los dos que por la cancelación de sonido y demás... Acá están. Y de repente, en el primer bombardeo que estábamos en Líbano a 6 kilómetros y vimos cómo empezaron a salir los misiles...

me estaba grabando Gonzalo un reporte y de repente el vato que nos iba de fixar, mira, mira, mira, voltea la cámara, empezamos el reporte y se cortó el audio. Entonces dije, puta, güey, se tienen mal los micrófonos. Después se los quité y no, resulta que es el iPhone. Llevaba yo otro iPhone, el de mi hija, que por cierto, ella estaba siguiendo gracias al iCloud, minuto a minuto la cobertura.

No me acordé, entonces yo todos los testimonios y demás, me decía Constanza, oye, porque a ella le llegaban a su iPad. Claro, están sincronizados con la nube. Exactamente, me decía, oye, papá, You told me that it was cramped, but not so much, so I had to make it a little more. This is the reality, I promise you that I will go very carefully.

So two cell phones, my tripod, which Ponti also recommended to me, which is the one that is carried in its covers, which is a cool one because it weighs nothing. And the microphones, a couple of GoPros for anything else, and with that you are done.

El en vivo utilizamos Zoom y utilizamos el Dillero, Dillero Plus o Live View, que son los que utilizan ahorita los medios. Entonces con Dillero necesitabas una señal un poquito más fuerte, salías sin bronca, por ejemplo, de Jerusalén, de la ciudad antigua, con los murotes que hay, imposible, pero te alejabas un poquito y podías salir con Dillero.

Nosotros utilizamos más el Zoom, que está cabrón, ¿no? O sea, que así como puede ser para cualquier reunión de ofresa.

Y de ahí salimos con los en vivos y todos los demás envíos eran por Telegram, porque no te baja nada de calidad y nos aguanta perfectamente. Y todo con tu eSIM. Exacto. O no te había Wi-Fi o algo? No. In the hotel, yes, even 5G. In the street, almost not.

But as we were in areas, in the kibbutz, those that I tell you that are socialist and capitalist communities, different models, there was no signal. And everything is devastated because all the areas that you go through, you see burned, burned, burned. And one would think aggressively from our dear Mexico, look, they are working the area to... To plant, they are burning to plant.

No, they are the remains of the missiles that have fallen and that are burning everything. And that's why you see all the area burned. Did you sleep well? Well, when I could, brother, because with the issue of the links and the difference in time, if it was suddenly two hours power up and up to the next link. And I've been sleeping for three days with the jet lag.

I'm feeling my 42 years in each cell of my being, because if you don't recover. Hey, and things like that, banals that no one asks you, food was everywhere.

Each city has, for example, there are many mixed cities like Jaffa, that the Arabs live with the... with the Israelis, which is like an example city because they can live together without any problem. And the famous kebabs and so on. So, well, normally in this type of coverage you get a good breakfast if you can, because you don't know when you're going to eat again, right?

So that's where you're taking it. Or suddenly at the base of the army, the sun, the sun is crazy. So there we threw ourselves a little while to hold on to a couple of shipments and go on to see where there is activity and that they let us enter the army. Muy bien.

En la tele, hermano. Estamos en la mañana con la señora de 8 o 9 en Azteca 1, en Los Hechos con los Ruiz Lara, que de ser programa familiar y mira el tema del chacoteo, ya se hizo un tema bélico en el asunto porque sí la sufrió mi señora. Y en redes sociales, arroba Roberto bien bajo Ruiz Lara. Estamos en Instagram y TikTok. Perfect. Roberto, thank you very much. Roberto, I follow you.

What a barbarity. No, no, no. Roberto, I didn't want to say anything. Next, next. Roberto, I follow you. Exactly. Roberto, thank you very much.

I'm the minimum. Yes. You're like the 007, the one who says, there are the gadgets, now go fuck yourself, bastard. Hey, let's see if in another episode we can philosophize a little with these wars, well, these supposed attacks, which I forgot the name right now, when there are no radio waves at all.

There is no way to communicate. No, it's crazy. I mean, you disappear for a couple of days. For example, you go to the north and I'm going to do my coverage to the north. And three days later, you don't come back. Did you use Google Maps or Waze? No, because it doesn't work, because they are constantly sending signals or cutting signals there as signal cutters, like in the Zócalo.

And suddenly the Waze said I'm going to go to the north. Six years ago I went, I moved everywhere, dead sea and others, no problem. Today no, and suddenly it appears that you are in Syria or it appears that you are in Yemen, you are crazy. That's why they say it's not reliable, that's why we had to hire. Otherwise we would have rented a car, for example.

But right now you don't because you had to know the routes and it's easy to get lost in the desert.

Because Waze is... No, well placed and everyone had their Waze and even the same taxi drivers put it. That just like we do to see if there is traffic or blockade of the military. And nothing, it's already worth it. It's already locating me in Lebanon. But yes, the issue of the signals. That I thought that's why I couldn't record because of the issue of signal blockades. El audio que te entró.

Y grabando un gatito o algo, pero imagíname, imagino que no grabó. No, espérate. No, y me repite los misiles jóvenes. Claro.

Sí, sí, pero bueno. Roberto, pues muchas gracias. Muchas gracias.

We are the young ones, the ones who comb our hair.

Fortunately, no one sends me more than my wife in the house. Thank you very much for the invitation, for being sharing with you. Welcome. No, well, the fact sends me, brother, right? Let's see, I had been invited to go cover the commemoration of a year on October 7th, which is when all this detonates, right? When Hamas makes the attack. In the music festival. In Nova, exactly.

So, it was already a year of the fact of the most tragic after the Nazi Holocaust for the issue of the Israelis and others. So, we were going to cover that, but days before it detonates again. El tema con Irán, con los misiles que manda Irán, los misiles balísticos. Entonces, esto escala de un día para otro.

Y a la par, a ver, el tema del Medio Oriente es bien complejo porque tiene 70 mil laristas. El punto es que en cuanto hay un ataque a Israel, y ojo, la narrativa que yo traigo es de Israel, no por defender una u otra, porque hay posturas muy diferentes. I'm telling you from where I lived, which is the Israeli territory. Exactly. So when there is an attack, they all join and they come in a chain.

So Iran attacks and Lebanon attacks. Lebanon, Hezbollah, the guerrillas. And then Yemen joins and then it joins through Gaza with Hamas. And there is the gringo and Russian shadow. Exactly. That's the joke. Today there are seven fronts of battle. Israel. Israel is a country of 9 million people. It is Jalisco, right?

To be able to have it a little bit in the context and in that little piece of land, because all this is happening every day, every hour.

Here it was more complicated because they canceled everything. After the attack of Iran, no big commercial airline said, I'm not going to do it with the Madrazo. So they canceled many flights that were not so tough. Only the Israeli airlines are the ones that are doing it. Arkea and there is another Al-El, which are right now I will show you all.

which also has very good characteristics, because I speak from a journalistic point of view, I don't want to be very careful with my words, because those airlines, for example, have someone from the Mossad among the passengers, the security measures are extreme, all the doors are armored, despite the normal armor that flights have to avoid this issue of kidnappings and others, it has an extra reinforcement in case of attacks, and Alel, which is that of the state,

They say, there are some pages that do see it, that it has flares. In the case of a direct bombardment against planes, they begin to release these flares that we see in the movies to prevent missiles from hitting them and so they can land. In those conditions is the daily life in Israel.

So, on the subject of the scales, it was complicated because it was in Mexico, Paris, Paris, Athens, Athens, Tel Aviv. Okay. To be able to get there because they opened and closed the airspace as it continues to happen in the meantime.

Fuck, how are they so calm? No, on the subject of normalization, saying, man, they are bombing every half hour. And then, as time goes by, you understand a little more of what is happening, but they are in an active war zone. And you saw that the activity continued. Well, as if nothing, right? Even the issue of tourism, which was reduced to nothing.

I saw it in Jerusalem with the Holy Sepulchre, for example, which is three hours in a row and that today there is no one because nobody wants to approach Israel right now because they are at war and there are bombings. But the normality is like the one that maybe we live in Mexico.

And if today you ask Culiacán, it is to say, how do you continue your life in the middle of the shootings between the Chapitos and the Mayitos? Well, because I have to continue living, right? That was my first Madrasa. We saw your stories. Just to finish with the...