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Roxana Hadadi

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A lot of workplaces do still traffic in this language of family. So your boss could still be seen as your dad. It's almost meta that we're grappling with, like, how do we tell stories about fathers and we're stuck there. telling stories about fathers.

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think it's really interesting that of the examples we listed that it's the women who are more successful at this because car me I don't actually think is very successful in defeating his mentors mindset right he is still incredibly hung up on what Joel McHale's character thinks of him right I think that season still ends with car me incredibly in his head and another example is interview with the vampire where

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you know, Louis, his lover and his essentially father vampire, Lestat, there is this whole scheme between him and his sister-slash-daughter vampire Claudia, where they're going to kill Lestat and finally be free. And Claudia is the one who is gung-ho about it, and Louis is not. It's Louis' regrets and anxiety and hesitation that allow Lestat to survive.

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So I think there's something really interesting. I mean, Interview with the Vampire is a period piece, but it's sort of fascinating that we have the women of industry who who are ultimately more comfortable killing off their fathers and stepping into sort of a new future, and the male characters who are a little more hesitant about it. But what does that speak to in viewers?

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I mean, I think, yes, we are very much in a time where all of us, I think, are looking through some sort of satisfaction or fulfillment through art. because it feels increasingly impossible to get it like in your real life. You know what I mean? Like it is wage stagnation. It is very difficult to progress. The economy is not great. Can you buy a house?

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So like, I think that we are looking at art as a way to like feed into all of that feeling. So theoretically you probably are not going to wage violence against your boss because But I think it feels good to see that waged on your behalf.

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Is that a... I don't know if we want that answer, Brittany. I mean, okay, here's what I will say.

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Is that a... I don't know if we want that answer, Brittany. I mean, okay, here's what I will say. That question makes me think of the one season long FX series, Why the Last Man.

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And, you know, which questioned what would happen if there were some sort of plague or disease that killed off men. And how would women recreate the world? Would it be like those memes that are like, there'd be no war if there were only women? Or would it actually, you know, be terrible and the same sort of like power struggle that we live through now?

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and I think the show really came down on the side of we would still have the same power struggle that we have now because you know as we've all been saying in this conversation like really what these are questions of are questions of resources and access and power and you can like remove individual players from that I think but unless you're going to like dismantle the system that allows those figures unless you're like

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getting rid of capitalism and inherited wealth, I don't think you're really going to fundamentally change. so that's why I think like the shows that are the most cathartic, like those moments are cathartic, right? Like, Tyrion killing Tywin is great.

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Tyrion's life doesn't get better. Cersei steps into Tywin's role, right? So I think that we are sort of being fed on these, like,

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incremental specific moments of what we perceive to be victory or success but we always do sort of end up in like a maybe it's nihilistic or maybe it's realistic or maybe it's pragmatic we do still end up in this place which is like this might make your individual life better for a certain period of time but i don't think you're like changing the world by doing this

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Yeah. They might not have resolution. Yeah. Maybe, you know, like, and I think we keep going back to succession and I think succession is a great example because, Shiv Roy stays married to Tom Wamsgans and takes her place on the top of the throne. You know what I mean?