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Yeah, no, go ahead.

Yeah, no, go ahead.

I mean, it was a picture of me getting my wedding dress and I had stretch marks, but I probably had over a hundred DMs, maybe more. Like it was so many people saying like, You're not supporting women, like showing your body image like that or like that's disgusting, get off Instagram. I'm like, you're wild as hell if you think women don't have stretch marks and cellulite. Get off social media.

I mean, it was a picture of me getting my wedding dress and I had stretch marks, but I probably had over a hundred DMs, maybe more. Like it was so many people saying like, You're not supporting women, like showing your body image like that or like that's disgusting, get off Instagram. I'm like, you're wild as hell if you think women don't have stretch marks and cellulite. Get off social media.

A lot. She's like, there's a clan. There is. I have a lot. What's funny, y'all will get this. I went on thinking I would be like this, you know, well, not on, off after everything. And kind of knowing how you are on the show once you go through it. I was like, I think I'm going to come out like really making women feel empowered. Like they don't need a man. It was the opposite.

A lot. She's like, there's a clan. There is. I have a lot. What's funny, y'all will get this. I went on thinking I would be like this, you know, well, not on, off after everything. And kind of knowing how you are on the show once you go through it. I was like, I think I'm going to come out like really making women feel empowered. Like they don't need a man. It was the opposite.

It was literally more I got hate from people saying, wife up. Like, chill out. Stop working. I'm like, whoa.

It was literally more I got hate from people saying, wife up. Like, chill out. Stop working. I'm like, whoa.

Literally. That's what it was. It's been crazy. Yeah. Constant.

Literally. That's what it was. It's been crazy. Yeah. Constant.

I don't think I can tell mine.

I don't think I can tell mine.

Yeah, no. Antonia and I were on and off for two and a half years. On and off. I got approached to be on other shows, bathing suit type shows we all know of, you know, like the Love Islands and whatnot. I was just uninterested in that. When Ultimatum came across my desk, so to speak, it made sense because Antonia and I were again on and off at the time.

Yeah, no. Antonia and I were on and off for two and a half years. On and off. I got approached to be on other shows, bathing suit type shows we all know of, you know, like the Love Islands and whatnot. I was just uninterested in that. When Ultimatum came across my desk, so to speak, it made sense because Antonia and I were again on and off at the time.

And he was just and had been ready to settle down. I was like, this one makes sense.

And he was just and had been ready to settle down. I was like, this one makes sense.

let's do it or he was like let's do it and i was like let's do it and it was you know all of a sudden you're on yeah it's like when you decide and when casting feels like it's right it's two weeks later you're filming it's two weeks if you're lucky if you're lucky very true if you're lucky um so no antonio had nothing to be not in a rude way god that sounds bad famous for

let's do it or he was like let's do it and i was like let's do it and it was you know all of a sudden you're on yeah it's like when you decide and when casting feels like it's right it's two weeks later you're filming it's two weeks if you're lucky if you're lucky very true if you're lucky um so no antonio had nothing to be not in a rude way god that sounds bad famous for

Like he wasn't trying to be famous. He wasn't trying to be a model. He wasn't promoting any business. He was just trying to marry me. So it's sad when people say that.

Like he wasn't trying to be famous. He wasn't trying to be a model. He wasn't promoting any business. He was just trying to marry me. So it's sad when people say that.

Like Netflix people, but yeah.

Like Netflix people, but yeah.

Oh, yeah. No.

Oh, yeah. No.

You're living with someone's person that they are in love with.

You're living with someone's person that they are in love with.

Imagine you giving up your man. I can't imagine it. See? She's like, no, don't want it. No, but I'm the same way. No. See? That's literally it. You know how hard that is? You're a man. Go live with someone else for a long time. It's hard. Okay. It brings some power to you though. It really does to your relationship. Everyone got engaged on our show. It worked.

Imagine you giving up your man. I can't imagine it. See? She's like, no, don't want it. No, but I'm the same way. No. See? That's literally it. You know how hard that is? You're a man. Go live with someone else for a long time. It's hard. Okay. It brings some power to you though. It really does to your relationship. Everyone got engaged on our show. It worked.

No, I forgot his name the other week. Whoops. Uh-oh. I did. She's like, I still do. I mean, I did. I really did. She's still wracking her brain. I said, oh, Alex.

No, I forgot his name the other week. Whoops. Uh-oh. I did. She's like, I still do. I mean, I did. I really did. She's still wracking her brain. I said, oh, Alex.

I think because I did not realize truly, again, I love that we all relate. You don't really see how much will come into your socials once a show comes out. They try to tell you, get ready.

I think because I did not realize truly, again, I love that we all relate. You don't really see how much will come into your socials once a show comes out. They try to tell you, get ready.

There's no real, they'll try.

There's no real, they'll try.

Don't reply.

Don't reply.

Totally. But I think more I was down to do fashion stuff. Like, okay, look at all these people. Like, all right, let me talk about work. Everyone's sick of that, I guess.

Totally. But I think more I was down to do fashion stuff. Like, okay, look at all these people. Like, all right, let me talk about work. Everyone's sick of that, I guess.

But I was like, I wonder if people, anyone out there will relate to panic disorder. So that was literally it. And it was very scary to talk about that, to be honest. And I'm not like a scared person.

But I was like, I wonder if people, anyone out there will relate to panic disorder. So that was literally it. And it was very scary to talk about that, to be honest. And I'm not like a scared person.

It is so strong. It is so strong because once you actually are vulnerable about talking about mental health, because everyone says mental health, but when you're in it with people that cannot live because of it.

It is so strong. It is so strong because once you actually are vulnerable about talking about mental health, because everyone says mental health, but when you're in it with people that cannot live because of it.

Yep. I mean, even yesterday, you know, someone who is A CEO of a company around mental health, I was getting on the plane and Antonio knew I was having a second. I said, I don't think I can get on the plane because I was a little panicky. So it's a real thing.

Yep. I mean, even yesterday, you know, someone who is A CEO of a company around mental health, I was getting on the plane and Antonio knew I was having a second. I said, I don't think I can get on the plane because I was a little panicky. So it's a real thing.

Oh, it's been really very different because my first business that everyone thinks I drop ship. I don't. That's crazy. First business, nipple covers. So definitely took a shift with my second mental health. You all know when the show comes out or any show comes out, you get so much shit. Yeah. Like we all know that. It's insane. Right. And it was wild how I started talking about panic disorder.

Oh, it's been really very different because my first business that everyone thinks I drop ship. I don't. That's crazy. First business, nipple covers. So definitely took a shift with my second mental health. You all know when the show comes out or any show comes out, you get so much shit. Yeah. Like we all know that. It's insane. Right. And it was wild how I started talking about panic disorder.

I've had it since 2017. Very bad. Seen a psychiatrist since then. And when I was talking about it after the show came out. It was pretty cool how many people, the nice ones, related with anxiety and panic disorder and how they wanted to get off prescription medicine. And I was like, damn, there's got to be a way. Because I was on prescription medicine at the time. I was taking Zoloft.

I've had it since 2017. Very bad. Seen a psychiatrist since then. And when I was talking about it after the show came out. It was pretty cool how many people, the nice ones, related with anxiety and panic disorder and how they wanted to get off prescription medicine. And I was like, damn, there's got to be a way. Because I was on prescription medicine at the time. I was taking Zoloft.

So I was hardcore on meds because of panic. And I just wanted to try to make something in the United States, find a manufacturer who could work with me and make something that helps without being on prescriptions. People love that alternative too, honestly.

So I was hardcore on meds because of panic. And I just wanted to try to make something in the United States, find a manufacturer who could work with me and make something that helps without being on prescriptions. People love that alternative too, honestly.

Great. I hope it's helping. Yeah. As someone who has suffered with panic disorder, it's very debilitating where like you can't even fly somewhere. Yeah.

Great. I hope it's helping. Yeah. As someone who has suffered with panic disorder, it's very debilitating where like you can't even fly somewhere. Yeah.

Yes. Right. Yeah. So that's where it came from and it's been cool.

Yes. Right. Yeah. So that's where it came from and it's been cool.

end goal would be to expand proxy we're actually looking at doing different product lines the whole vibe with the sodas we really love the idea of sodas and lollipops and all kinds of really cool stuff i love the idea of like a soda both see yeah two different clientele yes i love that yeah i love the branding of like it being badass like i'm a bad bitch but like also i need a little help

end goal would be to expand proxy we're actually looking at doing different product lines the whole vibe with the sodas we really love the idea of sodas and lollipops and all kinds of really cool stuff i love the idea of like a soda both see yeah two different clientele yes i love that yeah i love the branding of like it being badass like i'm a bad bitch but like also i need a little help

We've all been... In the same place. Right. It's tough. It is. Yeah. It's very tough.

We've all been... In the same place. Right. It's tough. It is. Yeah. It's very tough.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Uh-oh.

Uh-oh.

We have plenty of time. Plenty. We're both 34. You got time.

We have plenty of time. Plenty. We're both 34. You got time.

I don't protect my peace. I don't. I don't right now. I need to.

I don't protect my peace. I don't. I don't right now. I need to.

I'm a yes person right now. Really?

I'm a yes person right now. Really?

I'm a yes as in my day-to-day is business. And with business, it's yes. Like anything that needs to be done is a yes.

I'm a yes as in my day-to-day is business. And with business, it's yes. Like anything that needs to be done is a yes.

If I got to be up till 2 a.m., wake up at 5, it's yes. I don't protect my energy much. I need to. I'm trying to figure that out. I wish I had a better answer. That's an honest one. No, that's okay. That's real. See, I'm like the opposite. I'm like a no person.

If I got to be up till 2 a.m., wake up at 5, it's yes. I don't protect my energy much. I need to. I'm trying to figure that out. I wish I had a better answer. That's an honest one. No, that's okay. That's real. See, I'm like the opposite. I'm like a no person.

Oh, tell me. I had a thought. I have been saying no to friends a lot this year. My friends are going to see this and be like, no shit, bitch.

Oh, tell me. I had a thought. I have been saying no to friends a lot this year. My friends are going to see this and be like, no shit, bitch.

It hurts. It definitely hurts. I'm a friend of a long time, but I do feel like I'm in a really different stage of my life right now. And I am saying no to my 14-year friendships for a lot of stuff. And that does protect your energy.

It hurts. It definitely hurts. I'm a friend of a long time, but I do feel like I'm in a really different stage of my life right now. And I am saying no to my 14-year friendships for a lot of stuff. And that does protect your energy.

And that's okay. And that's okay. It is different now. I mean, I hate to say it. Not in the 30 category, but it's different. I'm 29. Don't you dare put me in that 30 category yet. Did you just turn 29?

And that's okay. And that's okay. It is different now. I mean, I hate to say it. Not in the 30 category, but it's different. I'm 29. Don't you dare put me in that 30 category yet. Did you just turn 29?

I got one more year. I was going to say, it's different. The priority is a little bit, you know, 34, 35. It's like...

I got one more year. I was going to say, it's different. The priority is a little bit, you know, 34, 35. It's like...

Mine's a little different. I think that I don't really know if this is the same in Greek culture, but for Persians, at least, you know how it was like people thought we came on the show because of this and that. And I was like, no, people actually reached out for other shows. But I didn't because I didn't because, oh, my Persian mom, if she sees me in a bathing suit, I get it.

Mine's a little different. I think that I don't really know if this is the same in Greek culture, but for Persians, at least, you know how it was like people thought we came on the show because of this and that. And I was like, no, people actually reached out for other shows. But I didn't because I didn't because, oh, my Persian mom, if she sees me in a bathing suit, I get it.

X, Y, Z. There's so much difference. Judgment, truly, I would say, unfortunately, from our, like, my mom and the generation above that with Persian culture. to do anything like what we're doing. So I would say it's really cool to represent Persian women and be like, look, we're in America now.

X, Y, Z. There's so much difference. Judgment, truly, I would say, unfortunately, from our, like, my mom and the generation above that with Persian culture. to do anything like what we're doing. So I would say it's really cool to represent Persian women and be like, look, we're in America now.

No, truly. And I still get judgment. My mom didn't even watch the show because she's so nervous about how I'm going to look to her. And I hate that because my mom, I represent you well. Trust me, I talk about working. Come on.

No, truly. And I still get judgment. My mom didn't even watch the show because she's so nervous about how I'm going to look to her. And I hate that because my mom, I represent you well. Trust me, I talk about working. Come on.

But it's cool to show because I think there might be more Persian girls on shows if they weren't nervous about what Persian people thought. Yeah, that's very interesting.

But it's cool to show because I think there might be more Persian girls on shows if they weren't nervous about what Persian people thought. Yeah, that's very interesting.

Middle Eastern culture is hard. And I wish there was more. Honestly, I'm like, put me in a bathing suit. I should have came on here in a bathing suit.

Middle Eastern culture is hard. And I wish there was more. Honestly, I'm like, put me in a bathing suit. I should have came on here in a bathing suit.

Newlywed.

Newlywed.

But, yeah, so it's cool. It's cool. You don't see many Persians. Like, I can't really think of any other Persian women.

But, yeah, so it's cool. It's cool. You don't see many Persians. Like, I can't really think of any other Persian women.

It's tough. The judgment is there for sure. It was cool because I wore my necklace during filming, which I think is, like, a no-no. But I don't think anyone—I didn't do it on purpose, but they don't want you, like, representing stuff when you film, you know? But I had my Persian necklace on, like, the whole time. And so it was cool. The girls that were like— oh my God, you're Persian.

It's tough. The judgment is there for sure. It was cool because I wore my necklace during filming, which I think is, like, a no-no. But I don't think anyone—I didn't do it on purpose, but they don't want you, like, representing stuff when you film, you know? But I had my Persian necklace on, like, the whole time. And so it was cool. The girls that were like— oh my God, you're Persian.

Are we allowed to ask if you did it? Did you do it? We can't talk about it.

Are we allowed to ask if you did it? Did you do it? We can't talk about it.

That's what I would have done. And that's your man.

That's what I would have done. And that's your man.

I know we can switch we can switch roles and you can't put two like foreigners on a couch I will answer anything except perfect match.

I know we can switch we can switch roles and you can't put two like foreigners on a couch I will answer anything except perfect match.

The ultimatum is different too. It's honestly more like the circle where it's very real. I would not say the ultimatum and probably cast members disagree with me. I felt like it was very real because I was going through it. Yeah.

The ultimatum is different too. It's honestly more like the circle where it's very real. I would not say the ultimatum and probably cast members disagree with me. I felt like it was very real because I was going through it. Yeah.

Yeah. I think, I guess a secret, although not a secret, maybe things people don't see or know. It was pretty...

Yeah. I think, I guess a secret, although not a secret, maybe things people don't see or know. It was pretty...

freaking uh crazy to you know when you decide on your partner you know maybe like love is blind i actually don't know how this happens right when y'all see each other yeah for the first time it might be the same but when you when you pick each other you go and live in that apartment that night and that's it you walk in and for how long three weeks A little over. It depends too, right?

freaking uh crazy to you know when you decide on your partner you know maybe like love is blind i actually don't know how this happens right when y'all see each other yeah for the first time it might be the same but when you when you pick each other you go and live in that apartment that night and that's it you walk in and for how long three weeks A little over. It depends too, right?

I feel like that's what you do, right? You come to LA and you get a finger tattoo.

I feel like that's what you do, right? You come to LA and you get a finger tattoo.

It all depends. We all know production world's like three weeks, but then you're like, that's crazy, it's been a month. It's the longest three weeks of my life. There was like a hurricane that happened in Charlotte. So we were stuck there for way longer. It was like the hurricane that came through Charlotte that time.

It all depends. We all know production world's like three weeks, but then you're like, that's crazy, it's been a month. It's the longest three weeks of my life. There was like a hurricane that happened in Charlotte. So we were stuck there for way longer. It was like the hurricane that came through Charlotte that time.

Anyways, so that was wild because you pick the person, then you go and you walk in and you're like, that's wild, there's our bed. You know what I mean? So I don't know if it's a secret, but it's more like

Anyways, so that was wild because you pick the person, then you go and you walk in and you're like, that's wild, there's our bed. You know what I mean? So I don't know if it's a secret, but it's more like

kind of like those crazy go in and that's where you're gonna sleep and you're living with them the doors closed production leaves and you're here with the cameras are there but yeah you're there did you watch the latest season of yeah what do you think about it Ooh, I was stressed. Why? It was way more drama than our season, for sure. I think that, I mean, they, no one stayed together.

kind of like those crazy go in and that's where you're gonna sleep and you're living with them the doors closed production leaves and you're here with the cameras are there but yeah you're there did you watch the latest season of yeah what do you think about it Ooh, I was stressed. Why? It was way more drama than our season, for sure. I think that, I mean, they, no one stayed together.

Did anyone stay together? One person? One couple? I didn't finish it yet.

Did anyone stay together? One person? One couple? I didn't finish it yet.

I think a few of them.

I think a few of them.

When I watched it, I said, whoa. They definitely were down to test the waters with their new partner. They really leaned in. That is crazy. They really leaned in.

When I watched it, I said, whoa. They definitely were down to test the waters with their new partner. They really leaned in. That is crazy. They really leaned in.

They really leaned in. Because it's hard because you're not talking to your partner. Yeah. So I would say it's... I was proud of that season for really trying. That's what it's about.

They really leaned in. Because it's hard because you're not talking to your partner. Yeah. So I would say it's... I was proud of that season for really trying. That's what it's about.

Yes. When I watched it, I was like, damn, they tried. It was so hard. It was so hard. It's a tough show. It is tough.

Yes. When I watched it, I was like, damn, they tried. It was so hard. It was so hard. It's a tough show. It is tough.

I get in LA this morning. I get my ears pierced. We got to go. Ladies, wrap it up.

I get in LA this morning. I get my ears pierced. We got to go. Ladies, wrap it up.

That is a grass is greener in action. Right. Is it or is it not?

That is a grass is greener in action. Right. Is it or is it not?

With multiple people. Even still.

With multiple people. Even still.

She's like, well, tell me what is the reality?

She's like, well, tell me what is the reality?

They're coming to you, baby girl.

They're coming to you, baby girl.

Calvary. Like, where you at? Yeah, where are we? We in Banff? We in the mountains?

Calvary. Like, where you at? Yeah, where are we? We in Banff? We in the mountains?

I got a lot to say about that. What, at what point are you gonna not do long distance?

I got a lot to say about that. What, at what point are you gonna not do long distance?

There's so many bad questions.

There's so many bad questions.

But that's new age stuff.

But that's new age stuff.

Eight years ago. I don't know what she was doing eight years ago.

Eight years ago. I don't know what she was doing eight years ago.

Thank you. I had to say it.

Thank you. I had to say it.

Life is short. What are you doing for eight years apart? I'm so mad. I don't have advice for you. So you gotta move, sweetie.

Life is short. What are you doing for eight years apart? I'm so mad. I don't have advice for you. So you gotta move, sweetie.

Move or break up. She's like, I didn't ask for breakup advice.

Move or break up. She's like, I didn't ask for breakup advice.

Have they ever met in person? Oh, don't know. We don't know. Call in. Dial in now.

Have they ever met in person? Oh, don't know. We don't know. Call in. Dial in now.

Okay, so she likes a guy at church and she wants to approach him.

Okay, so she likes a guy at church and she wants to approach him.

I would get my whole family involved. I would tell my whole family, no? Just bring your mom.

I would get my whole family involved. I would tell my whole family, no? Just bring your mom.

No, I would tell my mom, mom, there's this guy, the pews.

No, I would tell my mom, mom, there's this guy, the pews.

You scoot in first. And then be like, honey. Yeah, hit on me with your mom right there. That's definitely hot.

You scoot in first. And then be like, honey. Yeah, hit on me with your mom right there. That's definitely hot.

I'll do this one. We'll see which one works.

I'll do this one. We'll see which one works.

I'm taking the family.

I'm taking the family.

He's like, touch what? That works.

He's like, touch what? That works.

I go every weekend.

I go every weekend.

Praising the Lord together without her.

Praising the Lord together without her.

God brings you together. There we go. God's timing. Want me to keep going?

God brings you together. There we go. God's timing. Want me to keep going?

I think I have experience. You said enough.

I think I have experience. You said enough.

I'm thinking, because I feel like I was the man. Let me think.

I'm thinking, because I feel like I was the man. Let me think.

Yeah. I do feel if you're younger, if you're like in your 20s. If you're younger, it does take some time.

Yeah. I do feel if you're younger, if you're like in your 20s. If you're younger, it does take some time.

i also think a lot of times let's be honest guys make up excuses or whatever to break up so it's like if you want to be with me because of a dumb excuse then i'm better than that move on right you know what i mean and i also feel like no matter where you are in life if you want to be with somebody you will make it work exactly yeah my thing is don't wait like go have fun live your life and if he really is the one for you he'll spin the block and maybe you'll be there and maybe you

i also think a lot of times let's be honest guys make up excuses or whatever to break up so it's like if you want to be with me because of a dumb excuse then i'm better than that move on right you know what i mean and i also feel like no matter where you are in life if you want to be with somebody you will make it work exactly yeah my thing is don't wait like go have fun live your life and if he really is the one for you he'll spin the block and maybe you'll be there and maybe you

We're switching this concept.

We're switching this concept.

All these were like, break up. Break up. Touch my Bible.

All these were like, break up. Break up. Touch my Bible.

I'd rather be apart. That's perfect. Should we be together? That wouldn't work if we wanted to be together. That's crazy. That actually would not work at all. We just wanted to work. You wouldn't touch my bedazzled Bible? I would not. Not the first month, maybe. I'd make it pretty. How pretty? What is going on?

I'd rather be apart. That's perfect. Should we be together? That wouldn't work if we wanted to be together. That's crazy. That actually would not work at all. We just wanted to work. You wouldn't touch my bedazzled Bible? I would not. Not the first month, maybe. I'd make it pretty. How pretty? What is going on?

I was the villain. I'll take that one. Right.

I was the villain. I'll take that one. Right.

I like being, because it was me. And it's like, if y'all think I'm mean, that's on you. And villain is, right. It's relative.

I like being, because it was me. And it's like, if y'all think I'm mean, that's on you. And villain is, right. It's relative.

People just think when you're honest, you're a villain. I love it. That's it.

People just think when you're honest, you're a villain. I love it. That's it.

Oh my God. I got the chills.

Oh my God. I got the chills.

Is there a sea? That's horrible.

Is there a sea? That's horrible.

I got chills because I did the first one. I was like, that's my one.

I got chills because I did the first one. I was like, that's my one.

But you know what sucks? Everyone will out there be like, well, if you're confident enough, who cares about the other girls? There's not enough confidence in the world. It's about respect. That's a lot. That's too much. That's a lot.

But you know what sucks? Everyone will out there be like, well, if you're confident enough, who cares about the other girls? There's not enough confidence in the world. It's about respect. That's a lot. That's too much. That's a lot.

Drinking with bathing suits on an island is a lot with your man.

Drinking with bathing suits on an island is a lot with your man.

That's so bad. And I called it a day. What's bad is like you would be down because your culture is like. We are very. Yeah, we are old. But not when you do it like that.

That's so bad. And I called it a day. What's bad is like you would be down because your culture is like. We are very. Yeah, we are old. But not when you do it like that.

Okay, so for real is when I was living in San Francisco He's gonna hear to be like a San Fran guy. I live there for a while. So I was in San Francisco We went on a date and it was cool like I think we kissed but I was never like a hookup Immediately kind of chick cuz I don't know why to be honest. I should've lived a little But we were out and then afterwards we went back and

Okay, so for real is when I was living in San Francisco He's gonna hear to be like a San Fran guy. I live there for a while. So I was in San Francisco We went on a date and it was cool like I think we kissed but I was never like a hookup Immediately kind of chick cuz I don't know why to be honest. I should've lived a little But we were out and then afterwards we went back and

At the time, I was looking for a place in San Francisco, so I was living in a hotel for a while. So we were at a hotel, which I think almost insinuates good time. For me, it's not really because I travel so much for work. This is kind of home right now. We're in there. We didn't do anything. He didn't get off, and he literally gets up out of the bed. He looked at me. This is for real.

At the time, I was looking for a place in San Francisco, so I was living in a hotel for a while. So we were at a hotel, which I think almost insinuates good time. For me, it's not really because I travel so much for work. This is kind of home right now. We're in there. We didn't do anything. He didn't get off, and he literally gets up out of the bed. He looked at me. This is for real.

And he goes, I guess I'm going to go to the bathroom and finish myself off. That's a real story. Comment your name.

And he goes, I guess I'm going to go to the bathroom and finish myself off. That's a real story. Comment your name.

Is that not the cringiest shit you've ever heard? That's disgusting. That's a real story.

Is that not the cringiest shit you've ever heard? That's disgusting. That's a real story.

No shame.

No shame.

Also, this room, I'm not in the penthouse suite. The bathroom's right there. The wall's connected. I can hear you. And also, there's a bathroom with a frosted window.

Also, this room, I'm not in the penthouse suite. The bathroom's right there. The wall's connected. I can hear you. And also, there's a bathroom with a frosted window.

He went in there.

He went in there.

Tell me... That is not the cringiest thing ever. That's disgusting. Yeah. And then what, like, left? Well, it was just like, this is really, yeah, time to go. There's bad people in this world. Gross, right? Mm-hmm.

Tell me... That is not the cringiest thing ever. That's disgusting. Yeah. And then what, like, left? Well, it was just like, this is really, yeah, time to go. There's bad people in this world. Gross, right? Mm-hmm.

You can't hold it together for one night. Pull it together. Go home. Go home. Or take a shower. Don't tell me. Ew. Take a shower and leave stuff. Not with a frosted glass. Going crazy in the bathroom. You can see. I'm going to keep it PG.

You can't hold it together for one night. Pull it together. Go home. Go home. Or take a shower. Don't tell me. Ew. Take a shower and leave stuff. Not with a frosted glass. Going crazy in the bathroom. You can see. I'm going to keep it PG.

Very gross. I'm telling you. No, that just gave me chills. It's very gross. I'd have been like, get out of my room. Get out, you fucking freak. Very much like narcissistic, right?

Very gross. I'm telling you. No, that just gave me chills. It's very gross. I'd have been like, get out of my room. Get out, you fucking freak. Very much like narcissistic, right?

I think I fell asleep. I'm not gonna lie.

I think I fell asleep. I'm not gonna lie.

Oh, done. Done, bye, gone. But the nastiest, that feeling, because... Y'all know I'm going to say how I feel. I think I said nothing because I was in. I was like, no, you're not going to the bathroom and finish. That's crazy.

Oh, done. Done, bye, gone. But the nastiest, that feeling, because... Y'all know I'm going to say how I feel. I think I said nothing because I was in. I was like, no, you're not going to the bathroom and finish. That's crazy.

Like in that moment, how could I have done? I should have, right? I was younger.

Like in that moment, how could I have done? I should have, right? I was younger.

It doesn't work. That's disgusting. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, tag him. I just saw he had a baby recently.

It doesn't work. That's disgusting. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, tag him. I just saw he had a baby recently.

Don't tag him. Well, I'm just saying that's wild. He got married. Well, someone...

Don't tag him. Well, I'm just saying that's wild. He got married. Well, someone...

For his kid's sake. Yeah. I got you. Everyone got quiet in here. I know.

For his kid's sake. Yeah. I got you. Everyone got quiet in here. I know.

We've lived. We've lived. Nobody will look at frosted glass the same, I'm telling you.

We've lived. We've lived. Nobody will look at frosted glass the same, I'm telling you.

Yeah, it's very true. Like dating outside of what you normally would. Because I think a lot of people box themselves into what they think they like.

Yeah, it's very true. Like dating outside of what you normally would. Because I think a lot of people box themselves into what they think they like.

Yeah, totally. I think mine is different. Obviously, right. Like we all know I would have never gotten married if I wasn't on that show. Maybe at some point in my life, I would not be sitting here two years after the show married. I just wouldn't.

Yeah, totally. I think mine is different. Obviously, right. Like we all know I would have never gotten married if I wasn't on that show. Maybe at some point in my life, I would not be sitting here two years after the show married. I just wouldn't.

So obviously being on that show taught me a lot when you're in that environment of like hardcore therapy for months, being with someone and then being with some, you know, not the person you came there with and then seeing what else there is. And not like we didn't see what else there was. We were on and off for so long and in other relationships.

So obviously being on that show taught me a lot when you're in that environment of like hardcore therapy for months, being with someone and then being with some, you know, not the person you came there with and then seeing what else there is. And not like we didn't see what else there was. We were on and off for so long and in other relationships.

But the ultimatum specifically definitely made me think, what am I doing? Like, what am I doing? Am I going to get married or not? Because if I'm not, I got to leave him. And if I am, he's the perfect person to marry. Yeah. If I am. Just give me chills.

But the ultimatum specifically definitely made me think, what am I doing? Like, what am I doing? Am I going to get married or not? Because if I'm not, I got to leave him. And if I am, he's the perfect person to marry. Yeah. If I am. Just give me chills.

Like, if I am, that was the biggest question. Because I was so, I'm not going to. But if I will when I'm 38, then like. Yeah, like, okay, then we'll do it. And, you know, I could have been sitting here, like we've talked about, single off the show, doing other shows or single. But, you know, I was like, damn, yeah, I'm going to do it. So just be open-minded.

Like, if I am, that was the biggest question. Because I was so, I'm not going to. But if I will when I'm 38, then like. Yeah, like, okay, then we'll do it. And, you know, I could have been sitting here, like we've talked about, single off the show, doing other shows or single. But, you know, I was like, damn, yeah, I'm going to do it. So just be open-minded.

Ultimatum really changed the way I thought really fast.

Ultimatum really changed the way I thought really fast.

Not to mention the babies. There's reality TV babies.

Not to mention the babies. There's reality TV babies.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, this world's small. We know this.

Yeah, this world's small. We know this.

It's really cool when you're in it, how connected the women are in it.

It's really cool when you're in it, how connected the women are in it.

Just tell me what it is. LA is a little different. LA has a different culture. Maybe I'll be there, maybe I won't.

Just tell me what it is. LA is a little different. LA has a different culture. Maybe I'll be there, maybe I won't.

Yeah. I like that. Yeah.

Yeah. I like that. Yeah.

Yes, baby. Thank you. Of course. Thanks for letting me talk about my weird stuff.

Yes, baby. Thank you. Of course. Thanks for letting me talk about my weird stuff.

It's Miss Roxanne Kaiser.

It's Miss Roxanne Kaiser.

Roxanne Kaiser. Last name never changed. There's a lot of controversy about it.

Roxanne Kaiser. Last name never changed. There's a lot of controversy about it.

Yeah, it's been... I got married. Yes. It was crazy.

Yeah, it's been... I got married. Yes. It was crazy.

She knows who she is, and she's lucky I don't blast her.

She knows who she is, and she's lucky I don't blast her.

I think I was the last one maybe on our season to get married because... It takes me a while to settle in.

I think I was the last one maybe on our season to get married because... It takes me a while to settle in.

So it took me a while. I did it on my own terms, the way I wanted to do it. And it was really good. It was beautiful.

So it took me a while. I did it on my own terms, the way I wanted to do it. And it was really good. It was beautiful.

Beautiful. It's what everyone says, which is hilarious. You don't remember anything, though. Like, it happens, and you're like, damn. That whole weekend went by.

Beautiful. It's what everyone says, which is hilarious. You don't remember anything, though. Like, it happens, and you're like, damn. That whole weekend went by.

We're kind of in the midst of wedding planning. Do you have any tips? Find a good wedding planner. Like a good one. I had a bad one. I'll be straight up and she's listening. I won't say her name but she knows who she is and she's lucky I don't blast her. Oh, shit. Yes.

We're kind of in the midst of wedding planning. Do you have any tips? Find a good wedding planner. Like a good one. I had a bad one. I'll be straight up and she's listening. I won't say her name but she knows who she is and she's lucky I don't blast her. Oh, shit. Yes.

Okay, wait. Why was it bad? The planner? Yeah. I just, I'm very type A, and I feel like I could have planned it. You know, I need someone who's on it and scheduled and has everything, like, timelines, day of, you're on it, you're one step ahead of me. I can't be one step ahead of you.

Okay, wait. Why was it bad? The planner? Yeah. I just, I'm very type A, and I feel like I could have planned it. You know, I need someone who's on it and scheduled and has everything, like, timelines, day of, you're on it, you're one step ahead of me. I can't be one step ahead of you.

She's in the background ad-libbing. Ad-lib commentary. Are we singing or talking? Whatever you want. It's getting Destiny's Child over here. Period. So, yeah. Find a good wedding planner.

She's in the background ad-libbing. Ad-lib commentary. Are we singing or talking? Whatever you want. It's getting Destiny's Child over here. Period. So, yeah. Find a good wedding planner.

You say super drama? Like super drama?

You say super drama? Like super drama?

We are.

We are.

We are, but I'm married now.

We are, but I'm married now.

That's so true.

That's so true.

Yeah. That's me. Hello.

Yeah. That's me. Hello.

I, um, literally it's the whole concept still. Like even still, I remember before walking down the aisle at my wedding to my girlfriends before walking down, it was the same thing. There's no different issue. It was the whole thing of like, that's one person. And maybe it's different like in this day and age because women are so independent in general.

I, um, literally it's the whole concept still. Like even still, I remember before walking down the aisle at my wedding to my girlfriends before walking down, it was the same thing. There's no different issue. It was the whole thing of like, that's one person. And maybe it's different like in this day and age because women are so independent in general.

It is a little different where back then it made so much sense.

It is a little different where back then it made so much sense.

Right, right. You didn't get married. You didn't have anything. Nothing. Nothing. It's just different now.

Right, right. You didn't get married. You didn't have anything. Nothing. Nothing. It's just different now.

She's going to start with that already. Period.

She's going to start with that already. Period.

You could still be your own person and be married now. Yes.

You could still be your own person and be married now. Yes.

And I think that is what the show taught me. Right. But at the reunion specifically, that was tough.

And I think that is what the show taught me. Right. But at the reunion specifically, that was tough.

Have you done a reunion? No, we didn't have one.

Have you done a reunion? No, we didn't have one.

They're brutal. They're long. They're very hard questions. And time has gone by. And you're like, whoa, I don't know. I'm like a different person now. But it's crazy because everyone's like, you're the same person as the show. It's just, I've just always had a hard time with the concept of marriage, but I've really grown with the concept of being dedicated to Antonio. Oh, I love that.

They're brutal. They're long. They're very hard questions. And time has gone by. And you're like, whoa, I don't know. I'm like a different person now. But it's crazy because everyone's like, you're the same person as the show. It's just, I've just always had a hard time with the concept of marriage, but I've really grown with the concept of being dedicated to Antonio. Oh, I love that.

And again, it's the whole title thing. He loves it. Awesome. He was like, you want to change your name? Cool.

And again, it's the whole title thing. He loves it. Awesome. He was like, you want to change your name? Cool.

because I don't you know that really takes away my identity for me yeah for me I feel that yeah I really do feel that some fans thought you were a villain on your season and that you focused too much on work how did that affect you I don't give a fuck sorry I don't give a little shit we can put beep I love that I don't care and you should not right you should not you should not

because I don't you know that really takes away my identity for me yeah for me I feel that yeah I really do feel that some fans thought you were a villain on your season and that you focused too much on work how did that affect you I don't give a fuck sorry I don't give a little shit we can put beep I love that I don't care and you should not right you should not you should not

If I'm a villain, why are y'all following me? Stop following me. I'm serious. It's actually crazy how much hate I get to this day still.

If I'm a villain, why are y'all following me? Stop following me. I'm serious. It's actually crazy how much hate I get to this day still.

Yeah, and Tony and I laugh about it all the time. It's constant. It is constant. When I post anything, wedding pictures, it's just...

Yeah, and Tony and I laugh about it all the time. It's constant. It is constant. When I post anything, wedding pictures, it's just...

Yeah, because I had stretch marks and people wanted to tell me.

Yeah, because I had stretch marks and people wanted to tell me.

Yeah, no, go ahead.

I mean, it was a picture of me getting my wedding dress and I had stretch marks, but I probably had over a hundred DMs, maybe more. Like it was so many people saying like, You're not supporting women, like showing your body image like that or like that's disgusting, get off Instagram. I'm like, you're wild as hell if you think women don't have stretch marks and cellulite. Get off social media.

A lot. She's like, there's a clan. There is. I have a lot. What's funny, y'all will get this. I went on thinking I would be like this, you know, well, not on, off after everything. And kind of knowing how you are on the show once you go through it. I was like, I think I'm going to come out like really making women feel empowered. Like they don't need a man. It was the opposite.

It was literally more I got hate from people saying, wife up. Like, chill out. Stop working. I'm like, whoa.

Literally. That's what it was. It's been crazy. Yeah. Constant.

I don't think I can tell mine.

Yeah, no. Antonia and I were on and off for two and a half years. On and off. I got approached to be on other shows, bathing suit type shows we all know of, you know, like the Love Islands and whatnot. I was just uninterested in that. When Ultimatum came across my desk, so to speak, it made sense because Antonia and I were again on and off at the time.

And he was just and had been ready to settle down. I was like, this one makes sense.

let's do it or he was like let's do it and i was like let's do it and it was you know all of a sudden you're on yeah it's like when you decide and when casting feels like it's right it's two weeks later you're filming it's two weeks if you're lucky if you're lucky very true if you're lucky um so no antonio had nothing to be not in a rude way god that sounds bad famous for

Like he wasn't trying to be famous. He wasn't trying to be a model. He wasn't promoting any business. He was just trying to marry me. So it's sad when people say that.

Like Netflix people, but yeah.

Oh, yeah. No.

You're living with someone's person that they are in love with.

Imagine you giving up your man. I can't imagine it. See? She's like, no, don't want it. No, but I'm the same way. No. See? That's literally it. You know how hard that is? You're a man. Go live with someone else for a long time. It's hard. Okay. It brings some power to you though. It really does to your relationship. Everyone got engaged on our show. It worked.

No, I forgot his name the other week. Whoops. Uh-oh. I did. She's like, I still do. I mean, I did. I really did. She's still wracking her brain. I said, oh, Alex.

I think because I did not realize truly, again, I love that we all relate. You don't really see how much will come into your socials once a show comes out. They try to tell you, get ready.

There's no real, they'll try.

Don't reply.

Totally. But I think more I was down to do fashion stuff. Like, okay, look at all these people. Like, all right, let me talk about work. Everyone's sick of that, I guess.

But I was like, I wonder if people, anyone out there will relate to panic disorder. So that was literally it. And it was very scary to talk about that, to be honest. And I'm not like a scared person.

It is so strong. It is so strong because once you actually are vulnerable about talking about mental health, because everyone says mental health, but when you're in it with people that cannot live because of it.

Yep. I mean, even yesterday, you know, someone who is A CEO of a company around mental health, I was getting on the plane and Antonio knew I was having a second. I said, I don't think I can get on the plane because I was a little panicky. So it's a real thing.

Oh, it's been really very different because my first business that everyone thinks I drop ship. I don't. That's crazy. First business, nipple covers. So definitely took a shift with my second mental health. You all know when the show comes out or any show comes out, you get so much shit. Yeah. Like we all know that. It's insane. Right. And it was wild how I started talking about panic disorder.

I've had it since 2017. Very bad. Seen a psychiatrist since then. And when I was talking about it after the show came out. It was pretty cool how many people, the nice ones, related with anxiety and panic disorder and how they wanted to get off prescription medicine. And I was like, damn, there's got to be a way. Because I was on prescription medicine at the time. I was taking Zoloft.

So I was hardcore on meds because of panic. And I just wanted to try to make something in the United States, find a manufacturer who could work with me and make something that helps without being on prescriptions. People love that alternative too, honestly.

Great. I hope it's helping. Yeah. As someone who has suffered with panic disorder, it's very debilitating where like you can't even fly somewhere. Yeah.

Yes. Right. Yeah. So that's where it came from and it's been cool.

end goal would be to expand proxy we're actually looking at doing different product lines the whole vibe with the sodas we really love the idea of sodas and lollipops and all kinds of really cool stuff i love the idea of like a soda both see yeah two different clientele yes i love that yeah i love the branding of like it being badass like i'm a bad bitch but like also i need a little help

We've all been... In the same place. Right. It's tough. It is. Yeah. It's very tough.

Yeah.

Uh-oh.

We have plenty of time. Plenty. We're both 34. You got time.

I don't protect my peace. I don't. I don't right now. I need to.

I'm a yes person right now. Really?

I'm a yes as in my day-to-day is business. And with business, it's yes. Like anything that needs to be done is a yes.

If I got to be up till 2 a.m., wake up at 5, it's yes. I don't protect my energy much. I need to. I'm trying to figure that out. I wish I had a better answer. That's an honest one. No, that's okay. That's real. See, I'm like the opposite. I'm like a no person.

Oh, tell me. I had a thought. I have been saying no to friends a lot this year. My friends are going to see this and be like, no shit, bitch.

It hurts. It definitely hurts. I'm a friend of a long time, but I do feel like I'm in a really different stage of my life right now. And I am saying no to my 14-year friendships for a lot of stuff. And that does protect your energy.

And that's okay. And that's okay. It is different now. I mean, I hate to say it. Not in the 30 category, but it's different. I'm 29. Don't you dare put me in that 30 category yet. Did you just turn 29?

I got one more year. I was going to say, it's different. The priority is a little bit, you know, 34, 35. It's like...

Mine's a little different. I think that I don't really know if this is the same in Greek culture, but for Persians, at least, you know how it was like people thought we came on the show because of this and that. And I was like, no, people actually reached out for other shows. But I didn't because I didn't because, oh, my Persian mom, if she sees me in a bathing suit, I get it.

X, Y, Z. There's so much difference. Judgment, truly, I would say, unfortunately, from our, like, my mom and the generation above that with Persian culture. to do anything like what we're doing. So I would say it's really cool to represent Persian women and be like, look, we're in America now.

No, truly. And I still get judgment. My mom didn't even watch the show because she's so nervous about how I'm going to look to her. And I hate that because my mom, I represent you well. Trust me, I talk about working. Come on.

But it's cool to show because I think there might be more Persian girls on shows if they weren't nervous about what Persian people thought. Yeah, that's very interesting.

Middle Eastern culture is hard. And I wish there was more. Honestly, I'm like, put me in a bathing suit. I should have came on here in a bathing suit.

Newlywed.

But, yeah, so it's cool. It's cool. You don't see many Persians. Like, I can't really think of any other Persian women.

It's tough. The judgment is there for sure. It was cool because I wore my necklace during filming, which I think is, like, a no-no. But I don't think anyone—I didn't do it on purpose, but they don't want you, like, representing stuff when you film, you know? But I had my Persian necklace on, like, the whole time. And so it was cool. The girls that were like— oh my God, you're Persian.

Are we allowed to ask if you did it? Did you do it? We can't talk about it.

That's what I would have done. And that's your man.

I know we can switch we can switch roles and you can't put two like foreigners on a couch I will answer anything except perfect match.

The ultimatum is different too. It's honestly more like the circle where it's very real. I would not say the ultimatum and probably cast members disagree with me. I felt like it was very real because I was going through it. Yeah.

Yeah. I think, I guess a secret, although not a secret, maybe things people don't see or know. It was pretty...

freaking uh crazy to you know when you decide on your partner you know maybe like love is blind i actually don't know how this happens right when y'all see each other yeah for the first time it might be the same but when you when you pick each other you go and live in that apartment that night and that's it you walk in and for how long three weeks A little over. It depends too, right?

I feel like that's what you do, right? You come to LA and you get a finger tattoo.

It all depends. We all know production world's like three weeks, but then you're like, that's crazy, it's been a month. It's the longest three weeks of my life. There was like a hurricane that happened in Charlotte. So we were stuck there for way longer. It was like the hurricane that came through Charlotte that time.

Anyways, so that was wild because you pick the person, then you go and you walk in and you're like, that's wild, there's our bed. You know what I mean? So I don't know if it's a secret, but it's more like

kind of like those crazy go in and that's where you're gonna sleep and you're living with them the doors closed production leaves and you're here with the cameras are there but yeah you're there did you watch the latest season of yeah what do you think about it Ooh, I was stressed. Why? It was way more drama than our season, for sure. I think that, I mean, they, no one stayed together.

Did anyone stay together? One person? One couple? I didn't finish it yet.

I think a few of them.

When I watched it, I said, whoa. They definitely were down to test the waters with their new partner. They really leaned in. That is crazy. They really leaned in.

They really leaned in. Because it's hard because you're not talking to your partner. Yeah. So I would say it's... I was proud of that season for really trying. That's what it's about.

Yes. When I watched it, I was like, damn, they tried. It was so hard. It was so hard. It's a tough show. It is tough.

I get in LA this morning. I get my ears pierced. We got to go. Ladies, wrap it up.

That is a grass is greener in action. Right. Is it or is it not?

With multiple people. Even still.

She's like, well, tell me what is the reality?

They're coming to you, baby girl.

Calvary. Like, where you at? Yeah, where are we? We in Banff? We in the mountains?

I got a lot to say about that. What, at what point are you gonna not do long distance?

There's so many bad questions.

But that's new age stuff.

Eight years ago. I don't know what she was doing eight years ago.

Thank you. I had to say it.

Life is short. What are you doing for eight years apart? I'm so mad. I don't have advice for you. So you gotta move, sweetie.

Move or break up. She's like, I didn't ask for breakup advice.

Have they ever met in person? Oh, don't know. We don't know. Call in. Dial in now.

Okay, so she likes a guy at church and she wants to approach him.

I would get my whole family involved. I would tell my whole family, no? Just bring your mom.

No, I would tell my mom, mom, there's this guy, the pews.

You scoot in first. And then be like, honey. Yeah, hit on me with your mom right there. That's definitely hot.

I'll do this one. We'll see which one works.

I'm taking the family.

He's like, touch what? That works.

I go every weekend.

Praising the Lord together without her.

God brings you together. There we go. God's timing. Want me to keep going?

I think I have experience. You said enough.

I'm thinking, because I feel like I was the man. Let me think.

Yeah. I do feel if you're younger, if you're like in your 20s. If you're younger, it does take some time.

i also think a lot of times let's be honest guys make up excuses or whatever to break up so it's like if you want to be with me because of a dumb excuse then i'm better than that move on right you know what i mean and i also feel like no matter where you are in life if you want to be with somebody you will make it work exactly yeah my thing is don't wait like go have fun live your life and if he really is the one for you he'll spin the block and maybe you'll be there and maybe you

We're switching this concept.

All these were like, break up. Break up. Touch my Bible.

I'd rather be apart. That's perfect. Should we be together? That wouldn't work if we wanted to be together. That's crazy. That actually would not work at all. We just wanted to work. You wouldn't touch my bedazzled Bible? I would not. Not the first month, maybe. I'd make it pretty. How pretty? What is going on?

I was the villain. I'll take that one. Right.

I like being, because it was me. And it's like, if y'all think I'm mean, that's on you. And villain is, right. It's relative.

People just think when you're honest, you're a villain. I love it. That's it.

Oh my God. I got the chills.

Is there a sea? That's horrible.

I got chills because I did the first one. I was like, that's my one.

But you know what sucks? Everyone will out there be like, well, if you're confident enough, who cares about the other girls? There's not enough confidence in the world. It's about respect. That's a lot. That's too much. That's a lot.

Drinking with bathing suits on an island is a lot with your man.

That's so bad. And I called it a day. What's bad is like you would be down because your culture is like. We are very. Yeah, we are old. But not when you do it like that.

Okay, so for real is when I was living in San Francisco He's gonna hear to be like a San Fran guy. I live there for a while. So I was in San Francisco We went on a date and it was cool like I think we kissed but I was never like a hookup Immediately kind of chick cuz I don't know why to be honest. I should've lived a little But we were out and then afterwards we went back and

At the time, I was looking for a place in San Francisco, so I was living in a hotel for a while. So we were at a hotel, which I think almost insinuates good time. For me, it's not really because I travel so much for work. This is kind of home right now. We're in there. We didn't do anything. He didn't get off, and he literally gets up out of the bed. He looked at me. This is for real.

And he goes, I guess I'm going to go to the bathroom and finish myself off. That's a real story. Comment your name.

Is that not the cringiest shit you've ever heard? That's disgusting. That's a real story.

No shame.

Also, this room, I'm not in the penthouse suite. The bathroom's right there. The wall's connected. I can hear you. And also, there's a bathroom with a frosted window.

He went in there.

Tell me... That is not the cringiest thing ever. That's disgusting. Yeah. And then what, like, left? Well, it was just like, this is really, yeah, time to go. There's bad people in this world. Gross, right? Mm-hmm.

You can't hold it together for one night. Pull it together. Go home. Go home. Or take a shower. Don't tell me. Ew. Take a shower and leave stuff. Not with a frosted glass. Going crazy in the bathroom. You can see. I'm going to keep it PG.

Very gross. I'm telling you. No, that just gave me chills. It's very gross. I'd have been like, get out of my room. Get out, you fucking freak. Very much like narcissistic, right?

I think I fell asleep. I'm not gonna lie.

Oh, done. Done, bye, gone. But the nastiest, that feeling, because... Y'all know I'm going to say how I feel. I think I said nothing because I was in. I was like, no, you're not going to the bathroom and finish. That's crazy.

Like in that moment, how could I have done? I should have, right? I was younger.

It doesn't work. That's disgusting. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, tag him. I just saw he had a baby recently.

Don't tag him. Well, I'm just saying that's wild. He got married. Well, someone...

For his kid's sake. Yeah. I got you. Everyone got quiet in here. I know.

We've lived. We've lived. Nobody will look at frosted glass the same, I'm telling you.

Yeah, it's very true. Like dating outside of what you normally would. Because I think a lot of people box themselves into what they think they like.

Yeah, totally. I think mine is different. Obviously, right. Like we all know I would have never gotten married if I wasn't on that show. Maybe at some point in my life, I would not be sitting here two years after the show married. I just wouldn't.

So obviously being on that show taught me a lot when you're in that environment of like hardcore therapy for months, being with someone and then being with some, you know, not the person you came there with and then seeing what else there is. And not like we didn't see what else there was. We were on and off for so long and in other relationships.

But the ultimatum specifically definitely made me think, what am I doing? Like, what am I doing? Am I going to get married or not? Because if I'm not, I got to leave him. And if I am, he's the perfect person to marry. Yeah. If I am. Just give me chills.

Like, if I am, that was the biggest question. Because I was so, I'm not going to. But if I will when I'm 38, then like. Yeah, like, okay, then we'll do it. And, you know, I could have been sitting here, like we've talked about, single off the show, doing other shows or single. But, you know, I was like, damn, yeah, I'm going to do it. So just be open-minded.

Ultimatum really changed the way I thought really fast.

Not to mention the babies. There's reality TV babies.

Yeah.

Yeah, this world's small. We know this.

It's really cool when you're in it, how connected the women are in it.

Just tell me what it is. LA is a little different. LA has a different culture. Maybe I'll be there, maybe I won't.

Yeah. I like that. Yeah.

Yes, baby. Thank you. Of course. Thanks for letting me talk about my weird stuff.

It's Miss Roxanne Kaiser.

Roxanne Kaiser. Last name never changed. There's a lot of controversy about it.

Yeah, it's been... I got married. Yes. It was crazy.

She knows who she is, and she's lucky I don't blast her.

I think I was the last one maybe on our season to get married because... It takes me a while to settle in.

So it took me a while. I did it on my own terms, the way I wanted to do it. And it was really good. It was beautiful.

Beautiful. It's what everyone says, which is hilarious. You don't remember anything, though. Like, it happens, and you're like, damn. That whole weekend went by.

We're kind of in the midst of wedding planning. Do you have any tips? Find a good wedding planner. Like a good one. I had a bad one. I'll be straight up and she's listening. I won't say her name but she knows who she is and she's lucky I don't blast her. Oh, shit. Yes.

Okay, wait. Why was it bad? The planner? Yeah. I just, I'm very type A, and I feel like I could have planned it. You know, I need someone who's on it and scheduled and has everything, like, timelines, day of, you're on it, you're one step ahead of me. I can't be one step ahead of you.

She's in the background ad-libbing. Ad-lib commentary. Are we singing or talking? Whatever you want. It's getting Destiny's Child over here. Period. So, yeah. Find a good wedding planner.

You say super drama? Like super drama?

We are.

We are, but I'm married now.

That's so true.

Yeah. That's me. Hello.

I, um, literally it's the whole concept still. Like even still, I remember before walking down the aisle at my wedding to my girlfriends before walking down, it was the same thing. There's no different issue. It was the whole thing of like, that's one person. And maybe it's different like in this day and age because women are so independent in general.

It is a little different where back then it made so much sense.

Right, right. You didn't get married. You didn't have anything. Nothing. Nothing. It's just different now.

She's going to start with that already. Period.

You could still be your own person and be married now. Yes.

And I think that is what the show taught me. Right. But at the reunion specifically, that was tough.

Have you done a reunion? No, we didn't have one.

They're brutal. They're long. They're very hard questions. And time has gone by. And you're like, whoa, I don't know. I'm like a different person now. But it's crazy because everyone's like, you're the same person as the show. It's just, I've just always had a hard time with the concept of marriage, but I've really grown with the concept of being dedicated to Antonio. Oh, I love that.

And again, it's the whole title thing. He loves it. Awesome. He was like, you want to change your name? Cool.

because I don't you know that really takes away my identity for me yeah for me I feel that yeah I really do feel that some fans thought you were a villain on your season and that you focused too much on work how did that affect you I don't give a fuck sorry I don't give a little shit we can put beep I love that I don't care and you should not right you should not you should not

If I'm a villain, why are y'all following me? Stop following me. I'm serious. It's actually crazy how much hate I get to this day still.

Yeah, and Tony and I laugh about it all the time. It's constant. It is constant. When I post anything, wedding pictures, it's just...

Yeah, because I had stretch marks and people wanted to tell me.