Russ Vought

I imagine there are fraud in all sorts of private and public sector areas.

But the idea that 15 million Americans are about to lose their health care, the single biggest loss of health care in American history, mind you, not even during the Great Depression, did 15 million Americans lose their health care coverage.

The idea that all of those people who are about to lose their health care

are defrauding the system or are illegal immigrants, that is not supported by any facts whatsoever.

Are now working and getting the benefit of a job with employer-sponsored health care coverage.

Look, these assessments by CBO and others are often very static.

I mean, it's right of center groups as well.

Well, reclaim my time.

I only have a few minutes, so excuse me.

But it's not just CBO.

I mean, right of center groups, left of center groups, nonpartisan groups.

You're saying they're all wrong.

I am saying that the budget community typically relies on static thinking, static scoring, current law baselines.

And so you don't get an accurate picture of

of the extent to which the reforms that are being made are gonna have a dynamic impact with better programs, more healthcare for instance, $50 billion.

Well, let me, before we get to the friends, I only have a couple of minutes.

It is certainly not defunding childcare.

We fully fund childcare in this budget.

But doesn't that get at the premise of your question?

But according to you- Fully funded childcare, fully funded Head Start.