Samantha McVeigh
Appearances
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I mean, if she truly was trying to heal her father, realize it doesn't work and this is BS, they're like, I'm going to just take their money then.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Give her a little- That's her villain origin.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
She didn't beat her. That's nice. But she didn't beat her.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
It's fine. Fine. Waterboarding. It's fine. Saline solution. Everything's great. You know, I'm actually surprised that the police didn't jump in and be like, oh, racial stuff? Let's go beat some people. That seems like something they would want to do because they don't actually want to work.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I'm just thinking about this. It seems like, have you ever heard the story of Gypsy Rose? Yes. The child star, the mother. This sounds like the redneck version of that, except church, which makes sense if you want to be real honest. And I'm not going to lie. I'm sorry to those who live in Arkansas.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I know it's not your fault, but Arkansas is one of the top four states that I'm terrified to go through as a person of color. If I can, I will never go through there.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
So they found the right girls. They didn't just pick random black girls that they were like, yeah, this suits.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
The person you have to Google because you're not sure why you've heard of him, but then you figure it out.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I like I can't imagine because it's just the thought that I was like, I would have been immediately trip like that does not sound like a safe way to walk on.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
What is wrong with you? What is the pulse thing? I don't get it. I don't get that.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I mean, I guess if you know enough people or the right people, you'll get good information.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Mama had a plan. At least she told her to get out of the house, I guess. I mean, it could have gone really awry very quickly.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Oh, amazing. Okay. We need to advertise that as the perfect pickup line for other Christians.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Just in case she backs out. He's like, I got another one. I really, really need to fuck. This is the real one.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I was going to ask, is that bigotry? I didn't know for sure. It might be bigotry.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
He's got to do it right. And he's got to practice it and get it through. And then, like, you know, it perfects everything.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I was really confused where she was. Okay. She dropped her. Yeah. Okay.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Wow. I mean, a little respect. They really did pull people off the streets. They are pulling people off the streets.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
But they're not on the streets. They're not on the streets.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Anybody of different colors or a different race.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I don't think so, yeah. I'm on a podcast. It has a book. It's been around for a bit.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
And then they're the only ones profiting off of anything.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Or is it just frustrating that this cyclical thing has to continue to happen and we just have to never learn? Like, we never fucking learn. Or the people that... have learned really well, and so they bring it back so they can make that profit. I'm gonna throw this computer.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
What? Have you heard of this guy? Do you know Tony Alamo? I don't. I don't know. Which is what I'm kind of surprised by. Because I was really deep into the Christian world. So I don't know this one.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
You know, this is the thing about cults, I think, and this is kind of one of the big problems, especially a cult like this. You know, you want to sit back and say, man, they were crazy. But those rules apply for so many of the churches. Like literally the type that I grew up in, they wouldn't say necessarily you couldn't turn on the lights.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
But the idea, don't bring in literature, don't learn things on your own, was very much like placed and told us like things like seminary and theology. being any of those places, were against God and not having faith. So, like, unfortunately, that, because this cult is so crazy, it makes the other things look normal. And it's not. I'm okay, though.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
This method is proven, it's sound, let's keep going with it. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I mean, you got to show off when you're blessed.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Right. I mean, I'm not going to show you my jacket right now. I'm just saying.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I need all of those. And then golden candles. Yes.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Good. You know, I was just saying, I feel like Sophie is our adult that supervises. So I'm a little nervous that she's not here, but it's okay. Because I also did another show with Margaret and Sophie wasn't there either. So maybe she, is she mad at me? Oh, no.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Aren't they beautiful? They're an off brand like Johnny Cash.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
What is that one movie, I already forgot, that has the aliens and, obviously, the White House is involved? Wow.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Glenn Close is in it. And I think he, like, do you know? I'm going to get corrected later.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
All right. I could be wrong. There's those aliens that's so bad, like, digitally.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Yeah. Like she I see her beating people. I see that. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
It felt like a really bad SNL skit from the 70s.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I need someone to come sage my house. Yeah. In my brain.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Yeah. Again, you can find me on Stuff Mom Never Told You with my co-host, Annie. We talk about a lot of intersectional stuff, so that means really sad stuff right now. Until, like, you know, we're actually on the list and people come at us. But anyway, that's a podcast that I'm on. And then you can find me on Blue Sky, McVeigh, Sam. And that's about it.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
It's sinister and it's also bless your heart. Like she's going to poison you, but it's going to be a really great pie.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I was like, let's just quarantine you out there.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
It sounds like it's an amalgamation of saying Christ and then like Thessalonians and one of the chapters out of the Bible or something like that.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I'll take these two things, splice them together. Beautiful.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I mean, this all tracks to where she goes. It feels like it's very on point.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
It's like a surprise. It's like a surprise. Yeah, exactly.
Behind the Bastards
Part One: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I'm imagining some kind of pie and meat, maybe. Yeah. Pie meat. Expired soups.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Well, so that's the question. How is it marketed?
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
This is the only way we could fit the tiny stones on there with the tiny hands.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
So did people not realize it was a cult? They just assumed it was just a foundation and a children's home or like a halfway house type of thing at this point?
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
It is still named the Tony Alamo Jacket Company. And people are like, yeah, I still need it. I really need that now.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
They're not going to make it anymore. I have to have one.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I mean, maybe you could resurrect him from the dead. All you got to do is cuddle him.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
That's why he needs the speed, right? Oh, no, that's what he sounds like.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
You've got to make it happen. You've got to make it happen. Dolly Parton calls. She's got a show coming. Come on.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Yeah, for sure. But, you know. This does go along the biblical ideals, and that's also why a lot of the states in the U.S. have not banned child brides. Yeah. And I'm sure Arkansas is probably one of those places. Sorry, I don't know.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I'm just... Honestly, the problem I have is knowing that this man, if he was... under trial now, guarantee he'd be fine.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I think he would be so fine. He would probably be in office and or an advisor at this point. That's just the level. If he has gone that well.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Right, right. Well, I mean, that's the point.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
But I mean, like in general, like he's also a God, obviously. Maybe he didn't resurrect his wife, but that was for a plan to impregnate adolescence.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Right. And people who want to put those people on pedestals will justify why this is okay.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Exactly. For that group of people. For that group of people. Right. I mean, Matt Gaetz.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
That's about right. That's what kids do. Amen, brother.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Right. My question, though, is that the wife wasn't necessarily trying to protect the children as much as she was jealous of the children. She's his wife, right? Which is what happened with her daughter. She was upset with the daughter for seducing her husband at such a young age.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Right. But this is that conversation is that no one really takes responsibility because they're just like, well, he's the one bad character. We didn't know better. But the thing is, yeah, you did. Yeah, you did. You're like the parent or the people who watch these children grow up or haven't grown up. And then that's like, oh, everything about this. And the fact that this continues to be a...
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Justifiable conversation as if eventually someone will believe me and agree with me. Yeah, it works. They do.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Wait, I would think that is... Because he would be older than David Koresh, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I think he is. He's definitely older. So maybe he's mentoring this dude at this point?
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
If it's under like the actual umbrella of his cult, he still does.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Tithing, right? That's what I would assume.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I'm not going to lie, that's a hustle. That's a hustle. Hustle, come on now.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
That is, I would have never thought of that. There's a reason you wouldn't have thought of it. I can't believe grocery stores. Because you're not a monster. Yeah. But, like, grocery stores actually buying from them? That's... Yeah. Like, it's different times. It's different times.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Wait, so, wait, her body's missing now?
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Wait, what? What? Are we trying to resurrect our 2.0? Is this like... No.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Yeah, you put sunglasses on her. You put sunglasses on her.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
For some reason, I feel like she would enjoy, Susan would have enjoyed that. Oh yeah. Torturing her daughter after death. Also a piece of shit. I feel like she would approve of that. Yes. Yes.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
The parents are making their children still make these jackets. Oh, yeah. It's still the children.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
First of all, the voice is fantastic. Did he take on like hippie speak in order to like sell this after all of that?
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I guess hippie and jean jacket, denim, maybe they do go hand in hand. I don't know.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Tell me she's in that white suit, though. Is she at least in that suit?
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
What a deal. What a deal. A good conversation and jackets. Beaded jackets on that note? Beaded jackets, yes. So many rhinestones.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
That's just setting up for a haunting. Like being cursed and unhaunted.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I am here. That's the answer, right? You're here, alive.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Did he, like, remarry her? Like, renew the vows here, too? I mean, there's a lot that I'm, wow.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Right. I mean, this is kind of like the Jaws moment. Yes, yes. Pretend like no one's dead. Pretend like there's not a giant shark attack. We're just going to enjoy the summer. Let's just chill.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
You gotta marry her for the fifth time, right?
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
yeah that makes sense yeah no i was i mean to be fair in these cult situations it doesn't matter usually the parents whether they're present or not they're somewhat like complicit parts complicit i think a lot of these yeah but then like separating them makes a lot of sense which it does happen in a lot of cults yep yep it's a pretty it's pretty standard cult behavior and it i mean it makes sense that that's how tony works
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
So he was okay with other people having multi-relationships too? It wasn't just him, or did he do all the marrying?
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
There's so many questions. I have so many questions.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Like they already know there's these rumors, but then they let them in and be like, this is completely normal. Completely normal.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
The amount of like... First of all, just... Just from what I remember working as a social worker for DFAX, having a child sex abuse case literally cost a dude $6,000 in probation.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
It had to be forensic proof or the child had to be able to explicitly tell in detail what had happened to them. You would talk about the fact that it only costs a bit of money if you want to do this. It's disgusting.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
And this is why I don't trust Christians.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I mean, I was going to say a lot of this is hand in hand, once again, with the current church leaders today.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Was this a documentary at any point? Because some of these stories sound familiar.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I may have watched parts of it because some of this sounds, especially like the town being like, this is getting weird. Yeah. Finally getting to that point. Sounded familiar.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Right. Like we would mind our business, but then when you start doing this and like devaluing our property.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
But mattresses, how? I want to know this is like a Fast and Furious operation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In which they're like, there's a package coming. There's a truck coming.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I want to know that the prisoners cuddled him. Yeah. I'm just kidding. Don't tell me.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Right. And the fact that he lived a majority of his adulthood in luxury and like infamy, people respected his stuff. That's really disgusting. It makes me, yeah, angry. The entire system. Like, the fact that people are okay with this.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Like, I want to know, did Michael Jackson, obviously he can't now, but, like, Mr. T, Dolly Parton, anybody ever talk about, you know, having a shame in that or, like, renouncing any of those things? Did they at least burn?
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I was going to ask about that, but you know.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Right. I mean, at the very least, like acknowledging that the victims existed, including the child labor that went into her work.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Of course not. Yeah. They wouldn't. Yeah. I mean, we don't know who the queens and kings and presidents are at this point.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I mean, I feel like Bill Clinton probably had one. Like, I could see him putting one of those on and playing his saxophone.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I need to save my computer. How do I do this?
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
You know, we talk about stuff on Stuff Mom Never Told You about how the world is awful and similar to these bad people. And hopefully solutions or at least positive things. So if you want to come listen to us, you can find me on Blue Sky, McVeigh Sam. I do have Instagram and all that, but I'm rarely on there.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
And those kids became serial killers. Yeah, those...
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
So was this during an interview, like...
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
So they just found him. You slept with a dead body. Tell us about that experience. You grew up in this cult. Also, to those people, I'm so sorry.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Oh, I was waiting for six days. Six months?
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Were they not cuddling enough? Is that the reason?
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I don't know. You'd have to ask Tony. What's supposed to happen?
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
It's just conceding. It's not like he's conceded.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Bedazzled did their thing. Yes. So this makes sense. Also, it's kind of. Horrifying?
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Yeah, that's going to take me a minute.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
The fact that, that means he had to have sold so many more after the fact.
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
I was waiting for her name. But wait, Mr. T, the cutoff jean jacket?
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
That's Tony next to Mr. T. He really looks like off-brand country musicians. He looks like Haggard. He's Merle Haggard. Like, what the hell?
Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Tony Alamo: The Worst Preacher
Again, Mr. T, I remember him with a cut-off jean jacket. That's what I'm picturing when you say Mr. T. This one, it's got American flag arms. That doesn't sound like a big leap.