Sean Whalen
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41 appearances
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first heard May 2025
last heard May 2025
Sean Whalen’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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When I talk to entrepreneurs and business owners and people, I'm like, dude, you're a better father when you feel better. You're a better mother when you feel better. You're a better everything when you feel better. Lying doesn't feel good. Lying is scary. It's do they know? Do they know? Do they know? Where you just fucking tell the truth and you got nothing to worry about.
So it's like, if this is the recipe for me connecting with people and me feeling better, then I'm just going to keep doing it. And at the time, five years ago, and not that I was the only guy sharing shit on social media, but very few people are talking about real raw shit. You know, it's just airy fairy political things, reshares of this.
And so I just went on a mission, like I'm going to share me. And I, since then I've literally have almost a billion views on my videos, millions of followers. I mean, literally hundreds of millions of engagements on my posts from Instagram to Facebook. I mean, some of my videos have reached 150, 160, 170 million views of one video and, which is just mind bending to me, right?
But that's what I found is my own little kind of recipe. And I felt better. The marketplace resonated with it and I just kept fucking running it.
I don't know. Nobody's ever asked you that. Thinking back on life, my parents split up when I was an early teenager. I was actually a really quiet kid. I was really reserved. I was a chubby little kid. I was a pretty good baseball player, but I wasn't popular. I wasn't the class valedictorian. I was really, really quiet, really reserved.
And I think for me, when looking back at it, when I went on a Mormon mission, I went on a two-year Mormon mission, that was where I really started to kind of find my voice. I mean, you're out basically selling God. We were going door to door. pitching God to people. And it was something I was really passionate about. It was something that like, I didn't grow up in the Mormon church.
I grew up Catholic. And so it was kind of a recent convert to the church. And I just started realizing that people love to connect. People love to talk. And I was really good at it. I was good at just talking to people. And I know that sounds really weird, but like there really is an art form to communication. There's an art form of being able to not just talk. So, Hey, how's your water?
Like, why do you like that water? Okay, great. You know, whatever, but like really fucking,
listening to people and hearing them and knowing what's driving them and something that i've always been fascinated about and with is is what's behind it you know this is why headlines and i'm not like bouncing around like every other freaking bozo or like oh my god oh my god i'm like you know what's talking about a second i like to critically think
And for me, being able to be in a place where I can ask deeper questions, it's fun for me. And I found on my mission is I was talking about God. I mean, God's such a crazy topic for so many people because you have people that are way over here and the people are way over here. People have no clue.
And so it kind of forced me to really, number one, find my foundation, like what I really believed and how I really believed. felt about life and who I was and purpose and the entire thing. But I found out like people just love to connect. And so it's just become almost a skill set, an art form that I've just gotten better and better and better at is communicating with human beings.
But, um, you know, it definitely doesn't come from my youth. I mean, I was a quiet freaking kid, man.
I mean, that's talking. I mean, when you, when you really give a shit about people, like when you really care, like, I think it's, it's something that, I mean, we're not, we're, we're just so busy trying to get, believe me, hear me, this is me. And it's like, I really, it sounds funny, but if it can't be explained on a whiteboard or like with crayons, it's too complicated.
We should not have a tax policy in America that can't be explained on a fucking whiteboard, right? We should not have foreign policies that take 30,000 page freaking manuals to fucking explain, right? No one's interested in that, really. And so we tie this into the marketing and the business and the whole thing. Like copy is really important. You know what I mean? What are you telling me?
Everybody knows they're being sold something. So we've already got that out of the way, but what are you trying to tell me? What are you trying to communicate with me? Yay, yay, nay, nay. If the answer is a simple no, then just fucking say no, right? But I love being able to look at complex things and I break it down in my brain to just like coloring book kind of conversations.
Like, yeah, this is what this really is. And it's just more, to me, it's more fun that way. I have more connection to stuff that way. You know what I mean? Well, absolutely. And so let's talk about lions, not sheep.com.
Can you talk about some of that? Yeah, for sure. First of all... there's two philosophies in my opinion, like you, anybody who's a really, really, really good ad guy or copy guy or whatever. I mean, you can take any product and figure out a way to sell it. Right. And there's a lot of people that do that. They take, you know, products from China. They're really good.
They figured out the game, the algorithms, they can do that. And then there's people that, that, have passion behind something. They live it, they breathe it, they sleep in it. It's, it's, it's being to them because their kid has cancer and they want this product out there and they want this thing or that thing. And there's a story and a connection behind it.
And either, either one of those is phenomenal. Right. But I think the people that struggle the most are the ones that they, they, feel like they have that passion and they feel like everybody's supposed to have that passion. I had to, this shirt is so bad-ass and the saying, everybody's going to buy the saying and this entire thing. But like, I've found for me that I embodied lions, not sheep.
It literally was for me. You know what I mean? Like when I wrote my book, which is sold over half a million copies, completely organically. I mean, I didn't even put page numbers in there. We forgot it. It was so basic and just put out there in the marketplace. I wrote a book that I wanted to read. like that I would want to read. And I think a lot of people need to realize like,
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