Sherilyn Fisher (Mother)

Right.

Right.

Yeah, you don't want to think that a marriage never has arguments.

Yeah, you don't want to think that a marriage never has arguments.

Yeah. Conflict, something's wrong. Exactly.

Yeah. Conflict, something's wrong. Exactly.

No, my parents argued in front of us, and I didn't feel like that was a good thing.

No, my parents argued in front of us, and I didn't feel like that was a good thing.

Yeah, it would escalate. And, you know, I saw the yelling, knock down, drag outs. Yeah. And it was not good. So I determined in my heart that I was never going to do that to my children.

Yeah, it would escalate. And, you know, I saw the yelling, knock down, drag outs. Yeah. And it was not good. So I determined in my heart that I was never going to do that to my children.

And so I wasn't a yeller. I really wasn't.

And so I wasn't a yeller. I really wasn't.

I really wasn't a yeller.

I really wasn't a yeller.

Very rarely. But my level, because I maintained a really...

Very rarely. But my level, because I maintained a really...

calm voice most of the time like if I raised my voice because I was aggravated let's say on a scale of 1 to 10 I raised it to a 4 y'all would say mama you don't need to yell and I would be very offended because in my mind that was only a 4 because I was like no no no you don't understand I used to hear 15 at my house right yeah a little bit different yeah I would be highly offended because I was like this is not yelling this is just raising my voice because I'm aggravated yeah

calm voice most of the time like if I raised my voice because I was aggravated let's say on a scale of 1 to 10 I raised it to a 4 y'all would say mama you don't need to yell and I would be very offended because in my mind that was only a 4 because I was like no no no you don't understand I used to hear 15 at my house right yeah a little bit different yeah I would be highly offended because I was like this is not yelling this is just raising my voice because I'm aggravated yeah

I think it's crazy how your followers have just increased exponentially. But you being a good communicator does not surprise me. I guess just the social media aspect, I think your generation is more in tune with that. The Instagram and all the other social formats. But no, as far as you communicating well, that did not surprise me.

I think it's crazy how your followers have just increased exponentially. But you being a good communicator does not surprise me. I guess just the social media aspect, I think your generation is more in tune with that. The Instagram and all the other social formats. But no, as far as you communicating well, that did not surprise me.

You have communicated well ever since you were two and three and four. You've been an excellent communicator.

You have communicated well ever since you were two and three and four. You've been an excellent communicator.

In fact, I remember, and I guess because I talked to you all day long, and like you said, it was the two of us at home. I remember at church one day, a friend of mine coming in saying, Hey, Sherilyn, I just asked Jefferson if he'd seen his mama. And he said, Uh-huh, she's in the auditorium. She goes, What three-year-old says auditorium? I said, I don't know.

In fact, I remember, and I guess because I talked to you all day long, and like you said, it was the two of us at home. I remember at church one day, a friend of mine coming in saying, Hey, Sherilyn, I just asked Jefferson if he'd seen his mama. And he said, Uh-huh, she's in the auditorium. She goes, What three-year-old says auditorium? I said, I don't know.

I guess that's the way we talk to him at home. But you were an excellent communicator.

I guess that's the way we talk to him at home. But you were an excellent communicator.

He'd just talk, talk, talk.

He'd just talk, talk, talk.

Right.

Right.

I've had friends tell me, oh, I used Jefferson's thing the other day. They listened to one of your posts, and they said, oh, telling that really helped me. It worked.

I've had friends tell me, oh, I used Jefferson's thing the other day. They listened to one of your posts, and they said, oh, telling that really helped me. It worked.

That's good. I'm glad it's helping.

That's good. I'm glad it's helping.

Sherilyn.

Sherilyn.

Exactly.

Exactly.

You know, when you were speaking earlier, it brought to my mind that one other thing I did pray for. I pray, Lord, just help this child have the best of both of us. I did. I pray for you to have the best of both of us. And so I feel like he gave you that.

You know, when you were speaking earlier, it brought to my mind that one other thing I did pray for. I pray, Lord, just help this child have the best of both of us. I did. I pray for you to have the best of both of us. And so I feel like he gave you that.

Yeah. Well, of course, you always want your children to love the Lord and to be respectful and kind and... But I do remember praying for you that God would give you charisma. And I feel like he answered that in spades for you.

Yeah. Well, of course, you always want your children to love the Lord and to be respectful and kind and... But I do remember praying for you that God would give you charisma. And I feel like he answered that in spades for you.

Well, I'm very proud of you, and I just want to say that when people see your 30-second little posts that you do, that's really who you are. That is not an act. That is genuinely who you are, and we're so proud of you.

Well, I'm very proud of you, and I just want to say that when people see your 30-second little posts that you do, that's really who you are. That is not an act. That is genuinely who you are, and we're so proud of you.

Charisma to me is where somebody just... You're very likable and they like you. They don't even realize why they like you, but they just know they like you.

Charisma to me is where somebody just... You're very likable and they like you. They don't even realize why they like you, but they just know they like you.

I can just, I remember saying, you're not going to talk to me like that. That's not acceptable to me. Yeah. You say yes ma'am, no ma'am. And sometimes it's not only what you say, but the tone.

I can just, I remember saying, you're not going to talk to me like that. That's not acceptable to me. Yeah. You say yes ma'am, no ma'am. And sometimes it's not only what you say, but the tone.

You know, and I'd say you better watch your tone.

You know, and I'd say you better watch your tone.

Would you like to say that again? Yes. A little bit more respectfully.

Would you like to say that again? Yes. A little bit more respectfully.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I did say that a lot.

I did say that a lot.

Y'all all were.

Y'all all were.

That God would just give you favor wherever you went. And you always had lots of friends and your teachers loved you. Yeah. So, you know, I feel like he answered that.

That God would just give you favor wherever you went. And you always had lots of friends and your teachers loved you. Yeah. So, you know, I feel like he answered that.

Yes, that's part of it right there.

Yes, that's part of it right there.

Which is good.

Which is good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No. And it was barely. Just like, no, no.

No. And it was barely. Just like, no, no.

It's amazing how smart children are.

It's amazing how smart children are.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, I feel like you were always confident. You were confident. And you were very kind and caring. And so if the siblings were fighting, you did want to mediate. You did want them to, hey, hey, hey, what are y'all doing? Even without me telling you to do that. It's like I didn't expect you to be a mom. And I remember one time saying, Jefferson, I'm the mama.

Well, I feel like you were always confident. You were confident. And you were very kind and caring. And so if the siblings were fighting, you did want to mediate. You did want them to, hey, hey, hey, what are y'all doing? Even without me telling you to do that. It's like I didn't expect you to be a mom. And I remember one time saying, Jefferson, I'm the mama.

Yes.

Yes.

You know, because I was like, no, no, no, I'm here. I'm the mama. So a lot of it you took on yourself.

You know, because I was like, no, no, no, I'm here. I'm the mama. So a lot of it you took on yourself.

To do that. But they adored you.

To do that. But they adored you.

Yeah, you're always very caring.

Yeah, you're always very caring.

They all just and they still do.

They all just and they still do.

I was there.

I was there.

And sometimes you helped more than I wanted you to.

And sometimes you helped more than I wanted you to.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Yes.

Yes.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

He's trying to find that hole in the fence. You did that too, though.

He's trying to find that hole in the fence. You did that too, though.

Yeah. Yeah, you did that too.

Yeah. Yeah, you did that too.

Yes, I spent a lot of time with you one-on-one.

Yes, I spent a lot of time with you one-on-one.

You wore me out. You talked 24-7 from the time your eyes opened to the time they closed. You talked to me all day long.

You wore me out. You talked 24-7 from the time your eyes opened to the time they closed. You talked to me all day long.

Don't allow your children to name call each other. I think that's, that's detrimental to them in a way. I mean, that's, I think it hurts them. If they just verbally let them abuse each other. Don't let your children do that to each other.

Don't allow your children to name call each other. I think that's, that's detrimental to them in a way. I mean, that's, I think it hurts them. If they just verbally let them abuse each other. Don't let your children do that to each other.

Even if they're a brother and sister, say, no, we're not going to be name-calling. No, we're not doing that.

Even if they're a brother and sister, say, no, we're not going to be name-calling. No, we're not doing that.

Yes.

Yes.

Sure. And that they'll remember it from years down the road. No, to me, just don't let them do that to each other.

Sure. And that they'll remember it from years down the road. No, to me, just don't let them do that to each other.

Yes.

Yes.

He was born talking.

He was born talking.

Yes, yes. In fact, I remember when I put you in Mother's Day Out, I had to fill out on their form a When did your child first start talking? And I put as long as I can remember. And because I was serious, I was like, when did he? It's meant as long as I can remember. Yes. I'm sure by eight months, you were saying one words, you know.

Yes, yes. In fact, I remember when I put you in Mother's Day Out, I had to fill out on their form a When did your child first start talking? And I put as long as I can remember. And because I was serious, I was like, when did he? It's meant as long as I can remember. Yes. I'm sure by eight months, you were saying one words, you know.

uh ai now and have like a whole plan but i mean you just didn't have that so every generation is kind of trying to see what's going to be the best to y'all to know that you were loved and yeah um i was very affectionate with y'all i hugged yes oh yeah i hugged on y'all all the time um

uh ai now and have like a whole plan but i mean you just didn't have that so every generation is kind of trying to see what's going to be the best to y'all to know that you were loved and yeah um i was very affectionate with y'all i hugged yes oh yeah i hugged on y'all all the time um

But to me, if the child feels loved, then to me it's a safe space for them to be able to communicate anything to you. They should feel safe to speak their mind. As long as it's respectful, then they should be able to say anything to you.

But to me, if the child feels loved, then to me it's a safe space for them to be able to communicate anything to you. They should feel safe to speak their mind. As long as it's respectful, then they should be able to say anything to you.

And then by a year, I had a whole list of 20 plus words you were saying. And by 15 months, you were saying sentences plus.

And then by a year, I had a whole list of 20 plus words you were saying. And by 15 months, you were saying sentences plus.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There was a pause. Pause. Like 10 seconds pause.

There was a pause. Pause. Like 10 seconds pause.

Probably like two and a half.

Probably like two and a half.

Yes. You bring us a lot of joy.

Yes. You bring us a lot of joy.

You still do.

You still do.

He drove me crazy, yes.

He drove me crazy, yes.

Well, behind our couch was an entire mirror on the wall. Just to make your living room look larger. But it was your complete mirror. You would get on the back of the couch on your knees, make faces, talk to yourself.

Well, behind our couch was an entire mirror on the wall. Just to make your living room look larger. But it was your complete mirror. You would get on the back of the couch on your knees, make faces, talk to yourself.

Well, I mean, you would make faces. And so if I were fessing at you on the couch, instead of looking at me, you're looking at yourself in the mirror to see how pitiful you look while you're crying or answering me. It was hilarious. And finally, I would say, David, you've got to take this mirror down.

Well, I mean, you would make faces. And so if I were fessing at you on the couch, instead of looking at me, you're looking at yourself in the mirror to see how pitiful you look while you're crying or answering me. It was hilarious. And finally, I would say, David, you've got to take this mirror down.

You got to get this. You got to get rid of it. You were very drama.

You got to get this. You got to get rid of it. You were very drama.

Yeah, you were.

Yeah, you were.

No, it was cute. It was cute. But after a while, I got irritated because when I wanted you looking at me, you were looking at yourself in the mirror behind me.

No, it was cute. It was cute. But after a while, I got irritated because when I wanted you looking at me, you were looking at yourself in the mirror behind me.

Well, when I was pregnant with Sarah, I just didn't want you to feel left out. And I remember telling you when I was pregnant, this is going to be your baby sister. She's going to be your baby sister. And you were so excited when she was born and very protective of her and very proud. I don't feel like you were ever jealous of her.

Well, when I was pregnant with Sarah, I just didn't want you to feel left out. And I remember telling you when I was pregnant, this is going to be your baby sister. She's going to be your baby sister. And you were so excited when she was born and very protective of her and very proud. I don't feel like you were ever jealous of her.

And I feel like with each one, you just kind of just enlarge your big brother role. You were always very kind, very protective of them. And even with Sarah, she was kind of a light talker because you talked for her.

And I feel like with each one, you just kind of just enlarge your big brother role. You were always very kind, very protective of them. And even with Sarah, she was kind of a light talker because you talked for her.

She would point and you'd go, Mama, she wants this.

She would point and you'd go, Mama, she wants this.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Thank you. We called him the vowel man.

Thank you. We called him the vowel man.

Oh, goodness, I don't know if there is a secret. But kindness matters.

Oh, goodness, I don't know if there is a secret. But kindness matters.

And I just – you always had such a sweetheart. You had a very sweetheart. I think you were naturally kind. But I wouldn't let y'all be rude and ugly to each other. When y'all were fighting, I wouldn't let you name call or any of that. I would say, no, y'all are going to be sweet to each other.

And I just – you always had such a sweetheart. You had a very sweetheart. I think you were naturally kind. But I wouldn't let y'all be rude and ugly to each other. When y'all were fighting, I wouldn't let you name call or any of that. I would say, no, y'all are going to be sweet to each other.

I didn't really like a lot of arguing. I'd just say, all I need here is yes, ma'am.

I didn't really like a lot of arguing. I'd just say, all I need here is yes, ma'am.

All I want here is yes, ma'am.

All I want here is yes, ma'am.

Well, there's no sense in arguing about it.

Well, there's no sense in arguing about it.

You were only four.

You were only four.

And I was like, Jefferson, whoa, whoa, whoa.

And I was like, Jefferson, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Right.

Yeah, you don't want to think that a marriage never has arguments.

Yeah. Conflict, something's wrong. Exactly.

No, my parents argued in front of us, and I didn't feel like that was a good thing.

Yeah, it would escalate. And, you know, I saw the yelling, knock down, drag outs. Yeah. And it was not good. So I determined in my heart that I was never going to do that to my children.

And so I wasn't a yeller. I really wasn't.

I really wasn't a yeller.

Very rarely. But my level, because I maintained a really...

calm voice most of the time like if I raised my voice because I was aggravated let's say on a scale of 1 to 10 I raised it to a 4 y'all would say mama you don't need to yell and I would be very offended because in my mind that was only a 4 because I was like no no no you don't understand I used to hear 15 at my house right yeah a little bit different yeah I would be highly offended because I was like this is not yelling this is just raising my voice because I'm aggravated yeah

I think it's crazy how your followers have just increased exponentially. But you being a good communicator does not surprise me. I guess just the social media aspect, I think your generation is more in tune with that. The Instagram and all the other social formats. But no, as far as you communicating well, that did not surprise me.

You have communicated well ever since you were two and three and four. You've been an excellent communicator.

In fact, I remember, and I guess because I talked to you all day long, and like you said, it was the two of us at home. I remember at church one day, a friend of mine coming in saying, Hey, Sherilyn, I just asked Jefferson if he'd seen his mama. And he said, Uh-huh, she's in the auditorium. She goes, What three-year-old says auditorium? I said, I don't know.

I guess that's the way we talk to him at home. But you were an excellent communicator.

He'd just talk, talk, talk.

Right.

I've had friends tell me, oh, I used Jefferson's thing the other day. They listened to one of your posts, and they said, oh, telling that really helped me. It worked.

That's good. I'm glad it's helping.

Sherilyn.

Exactly.

You know, when you were speaking earlier, it brought to my mind that one other thing I did pray for. I pray, Lord, just help this child have the best of both of us. I did. I pray for you to have the best of both of us. And so I feel like he gave you that.

Yeah. Well, of course, you always want your children to love the Lord and to be respectful and kind and... But I do remember praying for you that God would give you charisma. And I feel like he answered that in spades for you.

Well, I'm very proud of you, and I just want to say that when people see your 30-second little posts that you do, that's really who you are. That is not an act. That is genuinely who you are, and we're so proud of you.

Charisma to me is where somebody just... You're very likable and they like you. They don't even realize why they like you, but they just know they like you.

I can just, I remember saying, you're not going to talk to me like that. That's not acceptable to me. Yeah. You say yes ma'am, no ma'am. And sometimes it's not only what you say, but the tone.

You know, and I'd say you better watch your tone.

Would you like to say that again? Yes. A little bit more respectfully.

Yeah.

I did say that a lot.

Y'all all were.

That God would just give you favor wherever you went. And you always had lots of friends and your teachers loved you. Yeah. So, you know, I feel like he answered that.

Yes, that's part of it right there.

Which is good.

Yeah.

No. And it was barely. Just like, no, no.

It's amazing how smart children are.

Yeah.

Well, I feel like you were always confident. You were confident. And you were very kind and caring. And so if the siblings were fighting, you did want to mediate. You did want them to, hey, hey, hey, what are y'all doing? Even without me telling you to do that. It's like I didn't expect you to be a mom. And I remember one time saying, Jefferson, I'm the mama.

Yes.

You know, because I was like, no, no, no, I'm here. I'm the mama. So a lot of it you took on yourself.

To do that. But they adored you.

Yeah, you're always very caring.

They all just and they still do.

I was there.

And sometimes you helped more than I wanted you to.

Mm-hmm.

Yes.

Absolutely.

He's trying to find that hole in the fence. You did that too, though.

Yeah. Yeah, you did that too.

Yes, I spent a lot of time with you one-on-one.

You wore me out. You talked 24-7 from the time your eyes opened to the time they closed. You talked to me all day long.

Don't allow your children to name call each other. I think that's, that's detrimental to them in a way. I mean, that's, I think it hurts them. If they just verbally let them abuse each other. Don't let your children do that to each other.

Even if they're a brother and sister, say, no, we're not going to be name-calling. No, we're not doing that.

Yes.

Sure. And that they'll remember it from years down the road. No, to me, just don't let them do that to each other.

Yes.

He was born talking.

Yes, yes. In fact, I remember when I put you in Mother's Day Out, I had to fill out on their form a When did your child first start talking? And I put as long as I can remember. And because I was serious, I was like, when did he? It's meant as long as I can remember. Yes. I'm sure by eight months, you were saying one words, you know.

uh ai now and have like a whole plan but i mean you just didn't have that so every generation is kind of trying to see what's going to be the best to y'all to know that you were loved and yeah um i was very affectionate with y'all i hugged yes oh yeah i hugged on y'all all the time um

But to me, if the child feels loved, then to me it's a safe space for them to be able to communicate anything to you. They should feel safe to speak their mind. As long as it's respectful, then they should be able to say anything to you.

And then by a year, I had a whole list of 20 plus words you were saying. And by 15 months, you were saying sentences plus.

Yeah.

There was a pause. Pause. Like 10 seconds pause.

Probably like two and a half.

Yes. You bring us a lot of joy.

You still do.

He drove me crazy, yes.

Well, behind our couch was an entire mirror on the wall. Just to make your living room look larger. But it was your complete mirror. You would get on the back of the couch on your knees, make faces, talk to yourself.

Well, I mean, you would make faces. And so if I were fessing at you on the couch, instead of looking at me, you're looking at yourself in the mirror to see how pitiful you look while you're crying or answering me. It was hilarious. And finally, I would say, David, you've got to take this mirror down.

You got to get this. You got to get rid of it. You were very drama.

Yeah, you were.

No, it was cute. It was cute. But after a while, I got irritated because when I wanted you looking at me, you were looking at yourself in the mirror behind me.

Well, when I was pregnant with Sarah, I just didn't want you to feel left out. And I remember telling you when I was pregnant, this is going to be your baby sister. She's going to be your baby sister. And you were so excited when she was born and very protective of her and very proud. I don't feel like you were ever jealous of her.

And I feel like with each one, you just kind of just enlarge your big brother role. You were always very kind, very protective of them. And even with Sarah, she was kind of a light talker because you talked for her.

She would point and you'd go, Mama, she wants this.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Thank you. We called him the vowel man.

Oh, goodness, I don't know if there is a secret. But kindness matters.

And I just – you always had such a sweetheart. You had a very sweetheart. I think you were naturally kind. But I wouldn't let y'all be rude and ugly to each other. When y'all were fighting, I wouldn't let you name call or any of that. I would say, no, y'all are going to be sweet to each other.

I didn't really like a lot of arguing. I'd just say, all I need here is yes, ma'am.

All I want here is yes, ma'am.

Well, there's no sense in arguing about it.

You were only four.

And I was like, Jefferson, whoa, whoa, whoa.