Sheryl Sandberg

And I think it is a travesty and a tragedy that anyone could say that. And I want to be clear, Jason, you started this by saying you always have positions. You always give people room for two sides. And that's fantastic. I think there are not just two sides, multiple sides to the Middle East story, multiple sides to the history, multiple sides of what's been going on.

And I think it is a travesty and a tragedy that anyone could say that. And I want to be clear, Jason, you started this by saying you always have positions. You always give people room for two sides. And that's fantastic. I think there are not just two sides, multiple sides to the Middle East story, multiple sides to the history, multiple sides of what's been going on.

There are not two sides on this. This is sexual violence. There is one side, one side, and we are against it. And that's relatively new in the world. To take you back, quick history lesson, which you all know, but I'd love for all your viewers to know. For a long time, the history of mankind, women's bodies were part of war. You got the village, you got the gold, you got the women.

There are not two sides on this. This is sexual violence. There is one side, one side, and we are against it. And that's relatively new in the world. To take you back, quick history lesson, which you all know, but I'd love for all your viewers to know. For a long time, the history of mankind, women's bodies were part of war. You got the village, you got the gold, you got the women.

And it was only 30 years ago, after the mass rapes of the DRC, Bosnia, the former Yugoslavia, that people said, no, rape is not a tool of war. We will prosecute it as a war crime and a crime against humanity. And the feminist groups were the ones who made that happen, the civil rights groups, the human rights groups. They've held since then in this moment.

And it was only 30 years ago, after the mass rapes of the DRC, Bosnia, the former Yugoslavia, that people said, no, rape is not a tool of war. We will prosecute it as a war crime and a crime against humanity. And the feminist groups were the ones who made that happen, the civil rights groups, the human rights groups. They've held since then in this moment.

If our politics drive us to give that up, think about what we give up. Because as we're doing this podcast right now, there are hostages in Gaza that we know are being sexually assaulted. There are women in Ukraine, Sudan, Ethiopia, around the world who are being sexually assaulted right now, right now. And we can't let that go. This is the one place we need to be united.

If our politics drive us to give that up, think about what we give up. Because as we're doing this podcast right now, there are hostages in Gaza that we know are being sexually assaulted. There are women in Ukraine, Sudan, Ethiopia, around the world who are being sexually assaulted right now, right now. And we can't let that go. This is the one place we need to be united.

So look, we can't paint them all with one brush. There are feminist groups that have spoken out on this, that have said, you know... Now did it. The new NARAL did it. They said, we are against the sexual violence. CARE did it. There are groups that have done it, no matter what else they're working on. A bunch of them have said to me privately, I know you're right.

So look, we can't paint them all with one brush. There are feminist groups that have spoken out on this, that have said, you know... Now did it. The new NARAL did it. They said, we are against the sexual violence. CARE did it. There are groups that have done it, no matter what else they're working on. A bunch of them have said to me privately, I know you're right.

Of course, sexual violence isn't okay. And of course this happened, but I can't speak out because all my employees are going to get upset. I can't speak out because the young people, and that makes me really sad.

Of course, sexual violence isn't okay. And of course this happened, but I can't speak out because all my employees are going to get upset. I can't speak out because the young people, and that makes me really sad.

you've gotta be able to hold two thoughts at the same time. Again, not my thought, but if you believe October 7th is resistant, you can still believe sexual violence happened. The fact that a group of feminists, none I'm particularly close to, have actually signed letters saying this didn't happen, is crazy, absolutely crazy. I mean, look, I'm going to read this.

you've gotta be able to hold two thoughts at the same time. Again, not my thought, but if you believe October 7th is resistant, you can still believe sexual violence happened. The fact that a group of feminists, none I'm particularly close to, have actually signed letters saying this didn't happen, is crazy, absolutely crazy. I mean, look, I'm going to read this.

The UN Special Representative on Sexual Violence, Pramila Patton, traveled to Israel, and here is what she wrote. She said, I witnessed in Israel were scenes of unspeakable violence perpetrated with shocking brutality, catalog of the most extreme and inhumane forms of killing, torture, and other horrors, including sexual violence. That's the UN. They're not exactly a pro-Israel group.

The UN Special Representative on Sexual Violence, Pramila Patton, traveled to Israel, and here is what she wrote. She said, I witnessed in Israel were scenes of unspeakable violence perpetrated with shocking brutality, catalog of the most extreme and inhumane forms of killing, torture, and other horrors, including sexual violence. That's the UN. They're not exactly a pro-Israel group.

Yeah, well, the key thing you said there is they're asking, where are the victims? Well, let me tell you where the victims are. They're dead. They're dead. That is why we called this film, sorry, Screams Before Silence. I have a story in this film. This woman, Tali, I went with her to the trailer where she hid. She was at the Nova Film Festival. She's a nurse. She hid in a trailer.

Yeah, well, the key thing you said there is they're asking, where are the victims? Well, let me tell you where the victims are. They're dead. They're dead. That is why we called this film, sorry, Screams Before Silence. I have a story in this film. This woman, Tali, I went with her to the trailer where she hid. She was at the Nova Film Festival. She's a nurse. She hid in a trailer.

I walked in with her to that trailer the first time she'd been in there and you could see her body like shake and she, we didn't, this didn't make the final cut of the film, but she picked up a black sweater and I think she might've been wearing that sweater. I was afraid to ask her, but she was like shaking. She hid in that trailer for, I don't know, five, six, seven hours.

I walked in with her to that trailer the first time she'd been in there and you could see her body like shake and she, we didn't, this didn't make the final cut of the film, but she picked up a black sweater and I think she might've been wearing that sweater. I was afraid to ask her, but she was like shaking. She hid in that trailer for, I don't know, five, six, seven hours.