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Stephen Kotkin

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

So to take the land away from the land magnates and give it to the peasants is to go through this risky path where you're losing one political support, the landowners, before you've fully gotten the new political support.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

So you're going to go through this valley of hell potentially where all bets are off and you're not sure if it's going to work.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

So the peasants don't really get the land as they could have

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

in the 1860s, and it becomes a problem that's not resolved right through 1917-18.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

So the peasants have their own revolution in 1917-18, which is not about the socialist parties, it's not about the Bolsheviks, it's not about Lenin, it's about the peasants seizing the land.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

But that creates an intense radicalism

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

that becomes the platform for the socialists in the cities to gain and hold power in the system.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

So you don't have that in the German case.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

In the German case, you have strikes and seizures of power in a few places, like Bavaria, for example.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

You have a Bavarian Soviet socialist republics.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

But they're easily put down by the forces of order or the army.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

And guess who's in the army?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

the peasants.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

So you don't have a peasant army ready to put down the revolt in the Russian case because the peasant army is the one seizing the land.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

It's the one doing the radical revolution.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

So you lack the forces of order

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

to destroy the leftist movement in the Russian case, because it is the leftist movement in the Russian case, which should be the forces of order.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

And in the German case, and to a certain extent the Italian case, which happened simultaneously, and there's also a Hungarian case here, where you have leftist revolts in the cities,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

seizures of power, like the Paris Commune of 1870-71, which happens in Paris, not in the rest of France.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

And you need a peasant army that has a stake in the existing order to undo the city leftist revolution.