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But in the same breath, Secretary of State Rubio also said that if it turns out some of them are not gang members, well, El Salvador, where they've been sent to, can just deport them back to Venezuela.
But in the same breath, Secretary of State Rubio also said that if it turns out some of them are not gang members, well, El Salvador, where they've been sent to, can just deport them back to Venezuela.
Since President Trump implemented this policy on Saturday, there has been a legal battle going on led by the American Civil Liberties Union. And they actually sued preemptively before the policy was public to prevent the use of this act against five Venezuelan clients they had in the U.S.
Since President Trump implemented this policy on Saturday, there has been a legal battle going on led by the American Civil Liberties Union. And they actually sued preemptively before the policy was public to prevent the use of this act against five Venezuelan clients they had in the U.S.
Since President Trump implemented this policy on Saturday, there has been a legal battle going on led by the American Civil Liberties Union. And they actually sued preemptively before the policy was public to prevent the use of this act against five Venezuelan clients they had in the U.S.
In that case, a federal judge in Washington, D.C., his name's James Boasberg, he issued a temporary restraining order for 14 days that essentially said the Trump administration needs to put this policy on hold. There are serious questions being raised here as to whether it could cause irreparable harm, which is the standard for that, and that they should stop.
In that case, a federal judge in Washington, D.C., his name's James Boasberg, he issued a temporary restraining order for 14 days that essentially said the Trump administration needs to put this policy on hold. There are serious questions being raised here as to whether it could cause irreparable harm, which is the standard for that, and that they should stop.
In that case, a federal judge in Washington, D.C., his name's James Boasberg, he issued a temporary restraining order for 14 days that essentially said the Trump administration needs to put this policy on hold. There are serious questions being raised here as to whether it could cause irreparable harm, which is the standard for that, and that they should stop.
And what we learned after the fact is that two flights, at least two flights, were in the air leaving the U.S. and bound for eventually for El Salvador. In his order, Judge Boasberg had said that even if there are planes in the air, you need to stop the planes and turn them around and bring the people back.
And what we learned after the fact is that two flights, at least two flights, were in the air leaving the U.S. and bound for eventually for El Salvador. In his order, Judge Boasberg had said that even if there are planes in the air, you need to stop the planes and turn them around and bring the people back.
And what we learned after the fact is that two flights, at least two flights, were in the air leaving the U.S. and bound for eventually for El Salvador. In his order, Judge Boasberg had said that even if there are planes in the air, you need to stop the planes and turn them around and bring the people back.
And it's kind of kicked off a legal battle, first of all, about the policy, and then secondarily about whether the Trump administration was honoring the spirit of his restraining order and whether they followed it. These planes continued on to their destination, which was El Salvador. And after the fact, the Trump administration has made the argument that They had already left the continental US.
And it's kind of kicked off a legal battle, first of all, about the policy, and then secondarily about whether the Trump administration was honoring the spirit of his restraining order and whether they followed it. These planes continued on to their destination, which was El Salvador. And after the fact, the Trump administration has made the argument that They had already left the continental US.
And it's kind of kicked off a legal battle, first of all, about the policy, and then secondarily about whether the Trump administration was honoring the spirit of his restraining order and whether they followed it. These planes continued on to their destination, which was El Salvador. And after the fact, the Trump administration has made the argument that They had already left the continental US.
They were no longer in US airspace. And that fundamentally, by the time he issued this order, the people had been removed or deported from the US. So it no longer applied to them. And all this is still playing out in court. So we don't necessarily know where the judge will land on it or what the final result will be.
They were no longer in US airspace. And that fundamentally, by the time he issued this order, the people had been removed or deported from the US. So it no longer applied to them. And all this is still playing out in court. So we don't necessarily know where the judge will land on it or what the final result will be.
They were no longer in US airspace. And that fundamentally, by the time he issued this order, the people had been removed or deported from the US. So it no longer applied to them. And all this is still playing out in court. So we don't necessarily know where the judge will land on it or what the final result will be.
That's completely unclear to me at the moment. Bukele has said that they'll be held there for a one-year period that could be renewed. It's not clear that they're facing any charges in El Salvador. It's not clear that they're facing any charges in the U.S. or other countries either, or that they even have criminal convictions. So they are... really in a legal black hole at the moment.
That's completely unclear to me at the moment. Bukele has said that they'll be held there for a one-year period that could be renewed. It's not clear that they're facing any charges in El Salvador. It's not clear that they're facing any charges in the U.S. or other countries either, or that they even have criminal convictions. So they are... really in a legal black hole at the moment.
That's completely unclear to me at the moment. Bukele has said that they'll be held there for a one-year period that could be renewed. It's not clear that they're facing any charges in El Salvador. It's not clear that they're facing any charges in the U.S. or other countries either, or that they even have criminal convictions. So they are... really in a legal black hole at the moment.