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Teresa Carr

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

And she found that cannabis was both the way to help her overcome that addiction and it also helps assuage her pain.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

But a couple years ago, she and her partner Charles Arbina started having unexplained health issues.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

Summer had fainting episodes and stroke-like symptoms.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

Charles, who had a history of migraines, suddenly they became unrelenting.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

He had to be hospitalized.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

He lost feeling in the side of his face.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

The doctors didn't have any real explanation for what was going on.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

When Charles' doctor suggested their weed could be contaminated, the couple dismissed it.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

All legal products have to go through a testing process and they get a certificate of analysis or COA that says it's, you know, free of all these contaminants.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

And, you know, here's the chemical analysis of it.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

This is the THC profile.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

For instance, when Summer and Charles got some of the marijuana products they were using tested... To their horror, they discovered that they were contaminated with both mold and some pesticides, and that those pesticides were associated with some neurotoxicity.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

There's no way to know for sure.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

You can't prove cause and effect.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

One thing they did tell me is that when they stopped using that weed and switched to another brand, the problems that they had dissipated.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

So that's all you can say.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

They feel strongly that the two are correlated.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

He found that most of them were tainted with mold, and two of them actually had salmonella.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

He also found that about three-fourths of them

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

You know, overstated the THC level, which is, as we discovered, fairly common.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

One could say that.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

So, you know, there are contaminated products, you know, reaching the shelf.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

So from that perspective, you could say that the regulatory framework just isn't working to keep all the products that consumers are using and buying at dispensaries to keep those products clean.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

So I talked to people across the industry, growers, lab managers, regulators, activists.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

And one thing that kept coming up was this issue of perverse incentives that encourage fraud.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

So you can see that pattern repeated over and over and over again.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

When a state legalizes marijuana, there's this big rush.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

A lot of people get into the industry.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

There's competition.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

It makes things tough.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

And now at this point, growers are struggling.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

So they need every single crop to pass.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

It's very important or they go out of business.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

And generally speaking, their products are going to be much more profitable for them if they have a higher THC level.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

So the higher THC level, the more it sells for.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

So producers pay labs to test their products.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

And my investigation for undoc.org found that producers will choose labs that are looser about passing products for contaminants and that will give them higher THC levels.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

The flip side of that is that labs that are strict about their standards are going to lose business.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

I was really interested in Oregon for two reasons.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

One, they had recently opened a state testing lab, which kind of is a new trend among state regulators.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

So there was that.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

And there was also their regulatory body had recently cracked down on several labs for THC inflation.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

In fact, most of their labs in the state they cracked down on for THC inflation.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

So it seemed a place to go where the regulators were actually taking some action and trying to do something about the problems that we were talking about.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

The experts I talked to, including Max, are most concerned with inhaling the contaminants because as opposed to going through your GI tract, this is going, the vape or the smoke is going directly into your lungs and then it gets directly into your bloodstream.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

And when you think about it, like let's say you're eating an apple, well, you can wash the apple and if there's anything on it, you know, you can take it at least off the outside, but you don't wash your weed.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

And we really don't know how those inhaled contaminants are going to get into your system and affect you.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

So when you think about mold, it's everywhere.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

And most forms are fairly harmless.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

But there are a few forms that can cause serious health problems to humans, especially if you inhale them.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

And so that's one of the areas experts are most concerned about.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

And that's the idea that somebody, especially somebody with a compromised immune system, might inhale one of these toxic molds.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

And there have been.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

case reports of people becoming seriously ill with pneumonia and serious lung respiratory problems from that.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

The other thing that scientists are worried about are heavy metals and pesticides that are toxic to the nervous system.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

For example, there's a type of pesticides that's commonly used in cannabis called organophosphates.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

It's a class of pesticides.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

And research has linked that

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

to the onset and faster progression of Parkinson's disease, which is really a concern because a lot of Parkinson's, I think something like 40% of Parkinson's patients use cannabis to help with their symptoms of the disease.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

Wow.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

So products that don't pass in the legal market are often funneled into the illicit market.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

So when you buy illicit weed, you may be actually getting something that failed for mold, heavy metals, or pesticides.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

So my best advice I can give to people, even though it's imperfect, is to go to a dispensary and get a product through the legal market that has been through some sort of testing.

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Why Legal Weed Isn’t Always Safe

And she became addicted to opioids that were prescribed by her doctor for her pain.