Tom Drake

You had all the other representing agencies that had anything to do with intelligence, world affairs, challenges, period. Mm-hmm. We even had people dealing with weather. I mean, we're talking, it's a holistic, as we would call full spectrum. Yes. Why were you guys worried about weather? Yeah, because depending on where you were, right? I mean, things happened. Yeah.

You had all the other representing agencies that had anything to do with intelligence, world affairs, challenges, period. Mm-hmm. We even had people dealing with weather. I mean, we're talking, it's a holistic, as we would call full spectrum. Yes. Why were you guys worried about weather? Yeah, because depending on where you were, right? I mean, things happened. Yeah.

We had the specialized desk that dealt with alerts for nuclear, like certain, or not just nuclear, but certain launches. You're always tracking launches. You're always tracking. There's signatures, specialized technology to analyze in real time or near real time what those signatures were, where the angle was, what, I mean...

We had the specialized desk that dealt with alerts for nuclear, like certain, or not just nuclear, but certain launches. You're always tracking launches. You're always tracking. There's signatures, specialized technology to analyze in real time or near real time what those signatures were, where the angle was, what, I mean...

We had the specialized desk that dealt with alerts for nuclear, like certain, or not just nuclear, but certain launches. You're always tracking launches. You're always tracking. There's signatures, specialized technology to analyze in real time or near real time what those signatures were, where the angle was, what, I mean...

Then there's all kinds of, how do you determine strength of signals, emanations, emissions of all kinds, right? Mazint is a whole other int as well. What is Mazint? Mazint, that's basically the technical, more technical ints in terms of things that, basically anything that provides a signature. Got it. Yeah, besides normal signals, besides normal electronics. Okay.

Then there's all kinds of, how do you determine strength of signals, emanations, emissions of all kinds, right? Mazint is a whole other int as well. What is Mazint? Mazint, that's basically the technical, more technical ints in terms of things that, basically anything that provides a signature. Got it. Yeah, besides normal signals, besides normal electronics. Okay.

Then there's all kinds of, how do you determine strength of signals, emanations, emissions of all kinds, right? Mazint is a whole other int as well. What is Mazint? Mazint, that's basically the technical, more technical ints in terms of things that, basically anything that provides a signature. Got it. Yeah, besides normal signals, besides normal electronics. Okay.

yeah like smoke or vapor yeah they're all there's all this is we're talking fire full spectrum full spectrum full spectrum oh yeah yeah and there's even specialized even within that right it gets really specific yeah i mean even in the imagery space we had specialized instruments to measure things did you ever did you ever um work with the sibbers system i'm aware of it

yeah like smoke or vapor yeah they're all there's all this is we're talking fire full spectrum full spectrum full spectrum oh yeah yeah and there's even specialized even within that right it gets really specific yeah i mean even in the imagery space we had specialized instruments to measure things did you ever did you ever um work with the sibbers system i'm aware of it

yeah like smoke or vapor yeah they're all there's all this is we're talking fire full spectrum full spectrum full spectrum oh yeah yeah and there's even specialized even within that right it gets really specific yeah i mean even in the imagery space we had specialized instruments to measure things did you ever did you ever um work with the sibbers system i'm aware of it

There was partial versions of that when I was there. Remember, there's been an evolution in technology that has advanced that. Find out, Steve, find out when Sibbers became. See, a lot of the early stuff was prototype or it was in the highly classified military space. That was always like one of the covers or operating under military as a cover for other agencies.

There was partial versions of that when I was there. Remember, there's been an evolution in technology that has advanced that. Find out, Steve, find out when Sibbers became. See, a lot of the early stuff was prototype or it was in the highly classified military space. That was always like one of the covers or operating under military as a cover for other agencies.

There was partial versions of that when I was there. Remember, there's been an evolution in technology that has advanced that. Find out, Steve, find out when Sibbers became. See, a lot of the early stuff was prototype or it was in the highly classified military space. That was always like one of the covers or operating under military as a cover for other agencies.

Well, it's a shorthand to say that's what you launch when a warning is, oh, they're heading. They're incoming.

Well, it's a shorthand to say that's what you launch when a warning is, oh, they're heading. They're incoming.

Well, it's a shorthand to say that's what you launch when a warning is, oh, they're heading. They're incoming.

Use it or lose it is a launch on warning. Yeah, right.

Use it or lose it is a launch on warning. Yeah, right.

Use it or lose it is a launch on warning. Yeah, right.